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What to Tell A Young Man Who Wants to Enlist-Fred
09-18-2005, 03:43 PM
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What to Tell A Young Man Who Wants to Enlist-Fred
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I have great respect for combat soldiers; very little to none for the military and political bureaucracy that takes advantage of young men's youth and ignorance and idealism to get them to fight their stupid wars. Since I can't think of anything the government has ever done for me, other than put impediments in the way of my pursuit of happiness, I would personally be unwilling to fight over anything at all other than immediate obvious threats to me. In fact most things that would threaten me in a public disorder sense would be made harder to defend against by the government, not easier.
Fred's piece is good; I plan to forward it to my youngest son. Dalton Trumbo's book, Johhny Got His Gun, did the necessary attitude adjustment for me during the Viet-nam War.
Ha
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Re: What to Tell A Young Man Who Wants to Enlist-Fred
09-18-2005, 04:31 PM
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Re: What to Tell A Young Man Who Wants to Enlist-Fred
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Originally Posted by HaHa
...I would personally be unwilling to fight over anything at all other than immediate obvious threats to me...
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Sometimes a threat is neither immediate nor obvious.
History has taught us that in order to prevent a lethal threat in the future, it may be better to remove that threat before it actually occurs.
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Re: What to Tell A Young Man Who Wants to Enlist-Fred
09-18-2005, 04:45 PM
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Re: What to Tell A Young Man Who Wants to Enlist-Fred
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Fred's piece is good
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Well, there doesn't seem to be anything wishy-washy about his stance and he certainly has his facts straight, although he spelled "commie" wrong...
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Re: What to Tell A Young Man Who Wants to Enlist-Fred
09-18-2005, 04:45 PM
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Re: What to Tell A Young Man Who Wants to Enlist-Fred
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Sometimes a threat is neither immediate nor obvious.
History has taught us that in order to prevent a lethal threat in the future, it may be better to remove that threat before it actually occurs.
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And for those who would compromise the founding principals of a country for a little bit of security? What does history say of them? The whole concept of preemptive war gives me the willies.
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Re: What to Tell A Young Man Who Wants to Enlist-Fred
09-18-2005, 07:05 PM
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Re: What to Tell A Young Man Who Wants to Enlist-Fred
I read Fred every week. I think he's brilliant and would love to go have a beer with him. He is wrong about National Review. The founder, William F. Buckley, did combat duty in WWII. Just a nit. His take on getting your limbs shot off is right on the mark. I knew a friend who served in Korea who lost a leg. Nobody cared(s) now.
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Re: What to Tell A Young Man Who Wants to Enlist-Fred
09-18-2005, 07:18 PM
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Re: What to Tell A Young Man Who Wants to Enlist-Fred
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I read Fred every week.* I think he's brilliant and would love to go have a beer with him.* He is wrong about National Review.* The founder, William F. Buckley, did combat duty in WWII.* Just a nit.* His take on getting your limbs shot off is right on the mark.* I knew a friend who served in Korea who lost a leg.* Nobody cared(s) now.*
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Probably Viet Nam is the same. I have a lot of friends who were there, 2 were wounded.
They have fascinating stories but most don't seem to want to talk about it. If I had gone
and survived, I doubt you could shut me up.
JG
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Re: What to Tell A Young Man Who Wants to Enlist-Fred
09-18-2005, 07:29 PM
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Re: What to Tell A Young Man Who Wants to Enlist-Fred
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...I doubt you could shut me up.*
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This just cries out for some comment...
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Re: What to Tell A Young Man Who Wants to Enlist-Fred
09-18-2005, 07:38 PM
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Re: What to Tell A Young Man Who Wants to Enlist-Fred
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Yeah, I do my best to set you guys up
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Re: What to Tell A Young Man Who Wants to Enlist-Fred
09-18-2005, 07:55 PM
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Re: What to Tell A Young Man Who Wants to Enlist-Fred
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Originally Posted by retire@40
Sometimes a threat is neither immediate nor obvious.
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So if there are threats that are neither immediate nor obvious, how do we recognize them? What should we do? Assume everything is a threat that needs to be attacked?
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History has taught us that in order to prevent a lethal threat in the future, it may be better to remove that threat before it actually occurs.
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In hindsight maybe. History also teaches us that misguided action is often the cause of devestating conflict that could have been avoided.
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