Actually, it was a friend and I think that I paid too little. It was Blue Book wholesale. Then he charged me $300 to drive it from Seattle to Phoenix which included the cost of a ticket up there, gas down and a hotel room somewhere in between.
Since dealers are not "not for porfit establishments" you either paid too much or the guy was profit loss harvesting.
If a dealer averages $1000 profit on a vehicle and let's say the cost was 30K and the credit car company charged the dealer 3%. Now let's say that your friend at the dealer made only $500 on you. Do you think he sold you the car to loose $400? The math doesn't work.
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Me too, I always love those commercials when they decide to fly away at the spur of the moment and whip out their visa.
I had to do that back in the 90's. A friend and I flew out to L.A., and were planning on driving back to IL in a rental truck with a bunch of his tools and stuff. Plans changed while we were there, and I needed a plane ticket to get home. Whipped out the MC, and got a flight home the next day.
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I am currently carrying balances on 10 cards, but I am also not paying interest on any of them. They are all 0% teaser offers that I plan to pay off when the balances come due (generally in March through May of next year).
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I am currently carrying balances on 10 cards, but I am also not paying interest on any of them. They are all 0% teaser offers that I plan to pay off when the balances come due (generally in March through May of next year).
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FW AOR! Just paid off mine but have not gotten any new offers.
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Since dealers are not "not for porfit establishments" you either paid too much or the guy was profit loss harvesting.
If a dealer averages $1000 profit on a vehicle and let's say the cost was 30K and the credit car company charged the dealer 3%. Now let's say that your friend at the dealer made only $500 on you. Do you think he sold you the car to loose $400? The math doesn't work.
I think that he lost money since he is a friend. This is why you never do business with friends. I cannot figure out how he made any money off the deal.
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For those who use a debit MC or Visa to rent cars...if you have a fender bender, unless you have purchased the collision damage waiver (CDW) you will find the $3000 or larger debit to cover the damage, and loss of use a bit much to take. This will occur, even if your debit card has the two week car rental benefit, and even if you have your own car insurance.
At least with the credit card, you have a couple of weeks to contact your insurance company, the credit card car rental insurance, to convince the car rental agency to drop the $3000 charge. Sure, you will get that $3000 debit back someday, but think of the potential checks bouncing.....
We usta use CC's, but since we paid them off, we don't anymore. It's just easier to stay out of trouble if we don't have them in our wallet or purse. If I can't get it with my debit card I don't need it.
We usta use CC's, but since we paid them off, we don't anymore. It's just easier to stay out of trouble if we don't have them in our wallet or purse. If I can't get it with my debit card I don't need it.
I just have my credit card account set up to automatically pay off the entire balance when it is due. No way to get into trouble.
I just have my credit card account set up to automatically pay off the entire balance when it is due. No way to get into trouble.
I like the sound of this. Is this something you set with the CC company? If so, which company? or is it some arrangement you have with your bank? or 3rd party?
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I like the sound of this. Is this something you set with the CC company? If so, which company? or is it some arrangement you have with your bank? or 3rd party?
It's available on most credit card web sites. I have it setup with Wamu(now chase) and Bank of America( who would apparently jack my interest rate up to 29% with any provocation).
I paid off my balance in the late 80's or early 90's and haven't had a credit card since then, except that I opened a Sears charge account to replace my washer and dryer a couple of years ago because there was a discount on the laundry machines with a new account. I immediately paid the full amount and closed the account. I probably wouldn't even do that again, because I found out later on that they didn't close the account when I told them to.
I now have a Visa debit card from one bank and a Master Card debit card from another, but early on in my credit-card-free life, there were no logo debit cards, only ATM cards. Back then, it was a bit of a hassle to be without a credit card, but I think nowadays a debit card can be used anywhere the same-logo credit card is accepted.
Same as the majority in this forum, I do not "typically" but "always" pay off the CC every month. We use the Costco Amex card as often as we can, which gives back several hundred dollars a year.
The last time we carried any balance was probably nearly three decades ago, right after we got married.
I do ask for a cash discount for large purchase, every great once in a while I'll get a few percent. Of course for services and a such, I often get 10%+ off if the payment is made in large bills. I am not sure but I imagine it is conceivable that these transactions are not reported with 100% accuracy to various tax departments.
Speaking of not reporting things. Make sure that no potential advertisers see the results of this survey, it will horrified them. For instance, I am guessing the guys that buy your annuity for cash, (a site advertiser) don't get a lot of business from us dead beat credit card user.
FW AOR! Just paid off mine but have not gotten any new offers.
Indeed :-). I did accept an offer recently from CapitalOne, which was sort of surprising to me. My mailbox lately is filled with adverse action letters :-(.
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I have'nt used a credit card for 1 year, only a debit card. I have seen no problems yet. I rented a car, bought plane tickets, bought things on line, ect. without a hitch.
The upside is I have no CC bill to pay. The downside is I don't get reward points, but I have never seen anyone get rich off of reward points. MC and Visa give the same protection to debit cards as CC.
I really don't have a high opinon of the CC industry, and I don't want to play their game.
I have'nt used a credit card for 1 year, only a debit card. I have seen no problems yet. I rented a car, bought plane tickets, bought things on line, ect. without a hitch.
The upside is I have no CC bill to pay. The downside is I don't get reward points, but I have never seen anyone get rich off of reward points. MC and Visa give the same protection to debit cards as CC.
I really don't have a high opinon of the CC industry, and I don't want to play their game.
I couldn't agree more! Apparently there aren't many others here that agree with us, though. I love not having to start one of the many threads on this board about how my CC company has raised rates, changed due dates, or whatever (since I don't even have a CC any more, other than my work CC which I do not use except as required for work). Not have a CC simplifies my life, and that is worth something, too.
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I love not having to start one of the many threads on this board about how my CC company has raised rates, changed due dates, or whatever... Not have a CC simplifies my life, and that is worth something, too.
In the many years that I've used two cards each and every month (not everyone accepts my main AMEX card, so I carry a Visa/MC which gives amazon points that I always end up using), I've never had any sort of problem like this. I charge every penny I can, for the delay in payment and the x% rebate.
Most of that will never apply if you pay it off each month (they could charge 100% interest for all I care).
In the many years that I've used two cards each and every month (not everyone accepts my main AMEX card, so I carry a Visa/MC which gives amazon points that I always end up using), I've never had any sort of problem like this. I charge every penny I can, for the delay in payment and the x% rebate.
Most of that will never apply if you pay it off each month (they could charge 100% interest for all I care).
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What a coincidence! I've never had these problems, either, and I don't have to be concerned about such things. Credit card hassles are just static in the background of life as far as I'm concerned. Frank always pays his off each month, too, but the aggravation he has gone through is enough to deter me from going that route. In fact, just listing the hassles in this thread is way too much aggravation for me, even though he hasn't paid a cent in interest yet!
After this thread began, I thought briefly of taking your route and opening a PenFed CC account as was recommended in the spin-off thread. I went there, and the first thing I saw was something about having to have an account. No way am I going to open up a bank account and put perfectly good money in it, for that. Too much complication for me.
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