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Old 05-10-2005, 12:29 PM   #61
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Fasting on my coffee is a no-go. It could be more or less described less as coffee and more as cream and sugar with a little brown liquid added to tint it slightly...

I saw an interesting study once that said that excessive or overly extensive testing can lead to a lot of stress and anxiety. In particular the "whole body scans" that are being pitched to well-to-do senior citizens. They cruise my dads "Sun City" a couple of times a year offing both CAT style and ultrasound style partial or full scans.

The study said that like any machine, there are 'flaws' and 'concerns' in everyones body, almost at any age. For most people, they'll live and die with those flaws and never suffer any problems from them.

Show someone in their 60's or 70's the growths, arterial blockages, calcium buildups and all that stuff and they start worrying. The worry creates more problems than the flaws.

My dad couldnt stand it and had them do a bunch of the tests. Gave him a nice cd-rom full of videos. He has 9 "areas of concern". Showed them to his doctor who told him "Thats probably low for the average person, and these are all things to look at and be aware of, but nothing I'd do anything about or be concerned over.". He worried about it and talked about it for 2 years even though I provided plenty of reading materials that backed up what the doctor said. Hasnt mentioned it in a year or so although he still makes some noises from time to time about wishing he had a PPO plan instead of an HMO so he'd have more access to a variety of specialists without having to go through the HMO 'traffic cop'.

I suspect that would lead to a lot more expensive tests, perhaps some invasive procedures, and the net-net of the whole thing would be a negative...

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Re: Health Care for Retirees Eliminated
Old 05-21-2005, 05:08 PM   #62
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Why can't the U.S. provide nationalized medicine or health care? I understand there are problems associated with socialized health care. One problem is access to the health care system. Patients may experience long waits to see a specialist, get diagnostic tests and undergo elective surgery. This kind of problem can be resolved by committing funding to such program. The question is: Will the public willing to pay additional tax for such program? I think most people will say, "No!, we are already paying too much tax." The second qestion will be: Why don't we just stop so much money on military expenditure? Just image the 200+ billion spent on the Iraq War can do for health care.

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Old 05-21-2005, 08:14 PM   #63
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I agree Spanky - as a Canuck with a national medical system, it's worth every penny in higher taxes. I lived in the US for many years and fortunately had good healthcare from my employer but then I watched said employer layoff more than half the workforce. These people then had zero health coverage and were very panicked to find another job - any job - with coverage. If something bad happened to their health between jobs they were toast. I also remember the 'joy' of getting caught in the middle of arguments between the hospital, the doctor and the HMO over who owes what and if one didn't pay the other, they tried to ding me for it.

Eventually, as the population ages, national medical care in the US will happen IMHO. It's already a larger % of your GDP than nations with national healthcare. Not sustainable.



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