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Old 03-06-2015, 11:12 AM   #21
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You are FI. Why do anything that is stressful? I understand that it is lucrative. But you don't need the money so that is a non-factor.

There are a lot of things you can do with your time and that are worthwhile and stress free.
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Stress is usually what you put on yourself.... it is the attitude that you bring to the work, not usually the work itself... As the FOREX trader mentioned, he thrived where a good percent of the people would stress out....

Usually the larges stresses that I had working was when I was young and the company was failing... worried about being let go.... actually being let go!!! Later it was due to bad management (that did not bother me) demanding ever increasing time commitments from the employees (that did).... this stressed me since I knew I could not finish the work that was assigned to me and I would worry about what I was not doing... prior to them putting this unreasonable work load on me (oh, and everybody else.... it was not just me) I thought it was the perfect job for me...


If it were really 2 days a week I would not get stressed at all.... of course that excludes the stress jobs mentioned earlier where someones life was at stake... one of the saying I used to use when someone came to me with a problem is 'well, at least nobody died'....


Me, I would work a couple of days a week... as long as I still have the ability to take a few 'weeks' off here and there....
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You are FI. Why do anything that is stressful? I understand that it is lucrative. But you don't need the money so that is a non-factor.

There are a lot of things you can do with your time and that are worthwhile and stress free.
+1. You've won the game financially. You can do whatever you what without having to worry about income. You (and many of us on this site) are very fortunate.

Try out a low stress life and see if you like it.
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Thanks for all the great responses. One more thing to consider: if I turn down the position, another may not open up again like this. . .
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Whatever you decide I think your idea of "traveling the world" with your kids is a good idea. When someone says they plan to travel the world, they don't normally mean 125 countries as mentioned above. According to the World Atlas there are only 189 - 196 countries in total, depending on the definition of a country.

We didn't exactly travel the world with our 2 kids but we did rent houses or condos or cabins etc, for holidays of 2 weeks at a time in countries in Europe and the Caribbean, plus 2 month long vacations with them in Australia. They are in their 30's now but still talk fondly about those trips, and now enjoy doing their own travel. (Last year DD visited S. Korea, Hong Kong and Japan with her SO)
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One thing to consider: working 2 days/week will delay your ability to do the type of travel you speak of. And depending on how stressful the job is, it may leak into the other five days if you're not careful.

If you're a type A personality (I can relate), you can find a lot of other things to occupy your time that you can obsess over (and I use that word with the utmost respect and good intentions) - learning a language, read a bunch of books you've always wanted to, learn glass blowing, build a shed out back, refinish that Airstream trailer you've always wanted to, garden, etc.

As others have stated: you've won the game (congratulations). I'd take this time to enjoy the fruits of my labor, purchase some experiences through family travel that you want to do, take lots of pictures and enjoy yourself.
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Whatever you decide I think your idea of "traveling the world" with your kids is a good idea. When someone says they plan to travel the world, they don't normally mean 125 countries as mentioned above. According to the World Atlas there are only 189 - 196 countries in total, depending on the definition of a country.

We didn't exactly travel the world with our 2 kids but we did rent houses or condos or cabins etc, for holidays of 2 weeks at a time in countries in Europe and the Caribbean, plus 2 month long vacations with them in Australia. They are in their 30's now but still talk fondly about those trips, and now enjoy doing their own travel. (Last year DD visited S. Korea, Hong Kong and Japan with her SO)

Where did you get that number

My mother traveled to a lot of countries (she says 73 now, but I thought it was in the high 60s).... she used youth hostels... she was on the board of the local chapter so I got on it for a few years when they needed financial help... during that time I met some people who said they had traveled to over 200 countries... (it was something like 212 or 220 something... just cannot remember now)....
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Thanks for all the great responses. One more thing to consider: if I turn down the position, another may not open up again like this. . .

Well I will throw in another thought... you said it would be a 2 year commitment... that is not true... unless they are locking you up in jail you can change your mind and walk away... there might be some exit clause etc. that you might have to deal with, but nobody can make you go to work if you do not want to.... just sayin.....
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My mother traveled to a lot of countries (she says 73 now, but I thought it was in the high 60s).... she used youth hostels... she was on the board of the local chapter so I got on it for a few years when they needed financial help... during that time I met some people who said they had traveled to over 200 countries... (it was something like 212 or 220 something... just cannot remember now)....
World Atlas, but I'm sure there are other sources, although I was thinking of sovereign States. e.g. England is not a country recognized by the United Nations. (UK is, but try and tell the Scots they are not a country)

how many countries in the world

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Well I will throw in another thought... you said it would be a 2 year commitment... that is not true... unless they are locking you up in jail you can change your mind and walk away... there might be some exit clause etc. that you might have to deal with, but nobody can make you go to work if you do not want to.... just sayin.....
This is true. But the position is with a company where, unless they did something bad, I'd feel terrible leaving early. I'm pretty loyal until someone gives me a reason not to be.
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Whatever you decide I think your idea of "traveling the world" with your kids is a good idea. When someone says they plan to travel the world, they don't normally mean 125 countries as mentioned above. According to the World Atlas there are only 189 - 196 countries in total, depending on the definition of a country.

We didn't exactly travel the world with our 2 kids but we did rent houses or condos or cabins etc, for holidays of 2 weeks at a time in countries in Europe and the Caribbean, plus 2 month long vacations with them in Australia. They are in their 30's now but still talk fondly about those trips, and now enjoy doing their own travel. (Last year DD visited S. Korea, Hong Kong and Japan with her SO)
Thanks, Alan. I think the memories would be priceless.
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This is true. But the position is with a company where, unless they did something bad, I'd feel terrible leaving early. I'm pretty loyal until someone gives me a reason not to be.
That may be different so only you can decide I think. I would have been gone about 4M ago if it was me (my numbers always suggested that 5M was 100% safe eject button regardless of age). But I have always believe Time>>$$ and money can be a nearly limitless resource (some may disagree but I suspect Bill Gates could never really spend all he has) but time has a hard stop associated with it and none of us know when that stop will happen
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That may be different so only you can decide I think. I would have been gone about 4M ago if it was me (my numbers always suggested that 5M was 100% safe eject button regardless of age). But I have always believe Time>>$$ and money can be a nearly limitless resource (some may disagree but I suspect Bill Gates could never really spend all he has) but time has a hard stop associated with it and none of us know when that stop will happen
Agree 100%. I could have stayed FT making serious $ but opted not to because I think there is more to life than $. It is just a couple of years that would be PT, pad the savings until our local commitments no longer keep us here. Thanks!

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Alan, thanks...

I decided to do some research and came across this as an answer:
The Traveler's Century Club, a club for people who have visited more than 100 countries, has a list of 317 countries. Charles Veley from San Francisco in 2003 became the youngest person, at 37, to visit all countries, having visited all but about 70 countries in just over three years. By 2004 only nine members had visited every place on the list. John Clouse, from Evansville, IN, was the first to travel to all the countries and was recognized by the 1995 Guinness World Records as "the world's most traveled man." Charles Veley, claims to currently be the world's most traveled person. His website, mosttraveledpeople.com, lists that he has visited 709 out of 765 countries, territories, autonomous regions, enclaves, geographically separated island groups, and major states and provinces and his website documents the locations. According to Wikipedia no one has visited all 765 locations.


Here is a guy who has been to a good number of them.... found this while looking... it lists a good number of places that are not countries....

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Alan, thanks...

I decided to do some research and came across this as an answer:
The Traveler's Century Club, a club for people who have visited more than 100 countries, has a list of 317 countries. Charles Veley from San Francisco in 2003 became the youngest person, at 37, to visit all countries, having visited all but about 70 countries in just over three years. By 2004 only nine members had visited every place on the list. John Clouse, from Evansville, IN, was the first to travel to all the countries and was recognized by the 1995 Guinness World Records as "the world's most traveled man." Charles Veley, claims to currently be the world's most traveled person. His website, mosttraveledpeople.com, lists that he has visited 709 out of 765 countries, territories, autonomous regions, enclaves, geographically separated island groups, and major states and provinces and his website documents the locations. According to Wikipedia no one has visited all 765 locations.


Here is a guy who has been to a good number of them.... found this while looking... it lists a good number of places that are not countries....

List of all the Countries in the World
Interesting. Even Alaska is listed as a country on that list.

The point in my original post is that it is extremely unusual for a family with children to have stayed in 125 countries which is probably the reason that ERTX was complaining about how stressful it was when he did it, and I wanted to indicate to the OP that world travel can be fun even with kids.
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You asset level is outside my pay grade but personally I want to still work part-time because I like the brain work and extra money, but I would not do something stressful. Challenging, new and interesting kinds of work are different than stressful.

A good book you might find some wisdom in is What Happy People Know: How the New Science of Happiness Can Change Your Life for the Better. It deals with stress, work life balance and has examples of some very highly paid but high strung and life satisfaction poor executives and CEO types.
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Interesting discussion. Why don't you find something you like to do rather than something for the income? It seems like you have done well financially and you should be able to find a stress free work environment.
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A good book you might find some wisdom in is What Happy People Know: How the New Science of Happiness Can Change Your Life for the Better. It deals with stress, work life balance and has examples of some very highly paid but high strung and life satisfaction poor executives and CEO types.
I've read it! Helped me to realize FT wasn't for me. Excellent read.
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“Man. Because he sacrifices his health in order to make money. Then he sacrifices money to recuperate his health. And then he is so anxious about the future that he does not enjoy the present; the result being that he does not live in the present or the future; he lives as if he is never going to die, and then dies having never really lived.”
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Though you clearly meant no harm whatsoever, this well intended misquote has floated thru here before. Certainly something to think about/worth sharing, but the Dalai Lama never said it despite the many online links that erroneously say otherwise. Even Forbes fell for it.

In the Internet/social media age, fact checking can be overrun and misinformation is rapidly reinforced and becomes widely accepted all too quickly - 'Ain't technology grand...'

I know some will say the source isn't important, but it is to followers of the Dalai Lama.

Quote by James J. Lachard: €œMan surprised me most about humanity. Because h...€
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