Muni Fund - ?ing use and/or viability in taxable account
Summary:
-We max out all tax-deferred accounts, 401k, back door roth, etc.
-529 and other education/children accounts funded appropriately
-Asset allocation historically hovered and maintained in the 65/35 range through the ups and downs of market fluctuations.
-mostly invested in index funds both in tax deferred and taxable accounts
-solidly cemented in the 33% tax bracket or higher depending on DW bonus.
-live in MN so get to pay 8-9.45% state tax depending on income
-get to experience the wonderful feeling of AMT every year and don't see this changing any time soon
-Debt none besides mortgage, ~17 years left on 30 yr loan at 3.75%
-equity ~$750k+
Dilema, what p we are trying to figure out is in our taxable account held at Fidelity brokerage. Currently the balance is ~$285k which encompasses ~10%-12% of or entire portfolio. We basically live off DW salary and save mine after all deductions are taken out. We dont think of our liquid assets as an emergency fund per say, but liquidity for the most part is important for major purchases/fixes/etc.
Currently the balance is split:
-20% cash
-20% SMTFX (MN muni exp ratio .82%, currently receive ~$130/month dividends that are re-invested)
-25% handful of non-dividend stock/etf we have had for long time.
-35% FUSVX (S&P 500 exp ratio .035%, dividends re-invested)
Monthly we contribute $3000+ to this Fidelity brokerage split:
~16.5% (~$500) cash
~16.5% (~$500) SMTFX
~67% (~$2000) FUSVX
We do add to our individual stock/etf holdings occasionally, but do so equally according to the overall allocation above and if we have excess $ after bonuses, gifts, etc.
Our dilema. Given our high tax bracket both fed and state, we were questioning the use of the MN Muni. Choices are limited in this small sliver of options. We are ok with the added risk given the duration and interest sensitivity, especially since interest rates are poised to only gong go up in the near distant future. We have never been to enamored with the higher exp ratio. We are also aware that a portion income is/might be susceptible to AMT, upto 20% as i understand it per description and SEC limits/rules for type of fund.
Since we are at Fidelity there several other options we are considering instead of SMTFX if it makes sense in the overall scheme of things and either exchange all or partition SMTFX for one of the options belo/similar and/or not use muni type of option at all and just keep bit more cash and put rest in FUSVX S&P 500. Changes if made would carry on forward with any additional monies we add to the account as well.
Options being considered:
FTABX (national muni, exp ratio .25, no AMT, duration less than SMTFX)
SUB (AMT free national short muni, exp .25, no-fee trading)
MUB (AMT free national intermediate muni, exp .25, no-fee trading)
CD ladder, (1yr ~1.4%; 3yr ~1.6%; 5yr ~1.9%)
In addition, does the 'tax benefit' of using MN Muni and/or National Muni with the amount we have invested now and going fwd gets eroded due to AMT and our tax brackets both fed and state, where as not using muni is a mute point?
Thanks for any insight.
Summary:
-We max out all tax-deferred accounts, 401k, back door roth, etc.
-529 and other education/children accounts funded appropriately
-Asset allocation historically hovered and maintained in the 65/35 range through the ups and downs of market fluctuations.
-mostly invested in index funds both in tax deferred and taxable accounts
-solidly cemented in the 33% tax bracket or higher depending on DW bonus.
-live in MN so get to pay 8-9.45% state tax depending on income
-get to experience the wonderful feeling of AMT every year and don't see this changing any time soon
-Debt none besides mortgage, ~17 years left on 30 yr loan at 3.75%
-equity ~$750k+
Dilema, what p we are trying to figure out is in our taxable account held at Fidelity brokerage. Currently the balance is ~$285k which encompasses ~10%-12% of or entire portfolio. We basically live off DW salary and save mine after all deductions are taken out. We dont think of our liquid assets as an emergency fund per say, but liquidity for the most part is important for major purchases/fixes/etc.
Currently the balance is split:
-20% cash
-20% SMTFX (MN muni exp ratio .82%, currently receive ~$130/month dividends that are re-invested)
-25% handful of non-dividend stock/etf we have had for long time.
-35% FUSVX (S&P 500 exp ratio .035%, dividends re-invested)
Monthly we contribute $3000+ to this Fidelity brokerage split:
~16.5% (~$500) cash
~16.5% (~$500) SMTFX
~67% (~$2000) FUSVX
We do add to our individual stock/etf holdings occasionally, but do so equally according to the overall allocation above and if we have excess $ after bonuses, gifts, etc.
Our dilema. Given our high tax bracket both fed and state, we were questioning the use of the MN Muni. Choices are limited in this small sliver of options. We are ok with the added risk given the duration and interest sensitivity, especially since interest rates are poised to only gong go up in the near distant future. We have never been to enamored with the higher exp ratio. We are also aware that a portion income is/might be susceptible to AMT, upto 20% as i understand it per description and SEC limits/rules for type of fund.
Since we are at Fidelity there several other options we are considering instead of SMTFX if it makes sense in the overall scheme of things and either exchange all or partition SMTFX for one of the options belo/similar and/or not use muni type of option at all and just keep bit more cash and put rest in FUSVX S&P 500. Changes if made would carry on forward with any additional monies we add to the account as well.
Options being considered:
FTABX (national muni, exp ratio .25, no AMT, duration less than SMTFX)
SUB (AMT free national short muni, exp .25, no-fee trading)
MUB (AMT free national intermediate muni, exp .25, no-fee trading)
CD ladder, (1yr ~1.4%; 3yr ~1.6%; 5yr ~1.9%)
In addition, does the 'tax benefit' of using MN Muni and/or National Muni with the amount we have invested now and going fwd gets eroded due to AMT and our tax brackets both fed and state, where as not using muni is a mute point?
Thanks for any insight.
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