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In another thread about the problem posed by rapidly growing healthcare costs, Martha said:
One way to look at this is how long can it go on? Even if policies continue to be as asinine as they now are, not very long. Unless the medical sector starts generating large revenues from sources outside of the US economy, (maybe by selling US organs to oil sheiks) the medical economy must necessarily be parasitic on the rest of the US economy. This places a ceiling beyond which it absolutely cannot expand.
I made a few assumptions. 1-that the US econmy can average 5% growth overall. 2-That Martha's figure of 14% growth in medical expenditures is correct. In 2004, the medical economy was about 15% of the US GDP, which means all else is 85%.
US GDP in 2004 was approx. $11.75 trillion. Of this, $1.762 T was medical, $9.988T was all other economic activity.
If medical is increasing at 14%, then healthcare accounts for 2.1% of economic growth, leaving 2.9% for everything else. By the nature of exponential growth a faster rate of increase on a smaller base will eventually overtake a smaller rate of increase on an initially larger base. This means that healthcare will account for at a bit over 50% of all other GDP by 2014. By 2020 healthcare will have passed the total of all other economic activity. Can't happen folks. It isn't that I think it won't happen; it simply cannot happen because there would not be the income to support it. My guess is that we are getting very near the limit right now.
If the rest of the economy is more buoyant than I have guessed, it changes the crossover by a few years at most.
Does anyone think this is possible? If so, please tell me how.
H
Steins Law better be right. If I quit today, I figured my next year's medical costs with COBRA and estimated copays and deductible would be $15,700. Inflation for our medical insurance and elsewhere in the market (an insurance agent tells me) has been at 14% a year. If that rate of inflation continued, the yearly costs would double at about every five years. In five years my costs would be $30,225; in ten years, $58,203; and n fifteen years, $112,066.
One way to look at this is how long can it go on? Even if policies continue to be as asinine as they now are, not very long. Unless the medical sector starts generating large revenues from sources outside of the US economy, (maybe by selling US organs to oil sheiks) the medical economy must necessarily be parasitic on the rest of the US economy. This places a ceiling beyond which it absolutely cannot expand.
I made a few assumptions. 1-that the US econmy can average 5% growth overall. 2-That Martha's figure of 14% growth in medical expenditures is correct. In 2004, the medical economy was about 15% of the US GDP, which means all else is 85%.
US GDP in 2004 was approx. $11.75 trillion. Of this, $1.762 T was medical, $9.988T was all other economic activity.
If medical is increasing at 14%, then healthcare accounts for 2.1% of economic growth, leaving 2.9% for everything else. By the nature of exponential growth a faster rate of increase on a smaller base will eventually overtake a smaller rate of increase on an initially larger base. This means that healthcare will account for at a bit over 50% of all other GDP by 2014. By 2020 healthcare will have passed the total of all other economic activity. Can't happen folks. It isn't that I think it won't happen; it simply cannot happen because there would not be the income to support it. My guess is that we are getting very near the limit right now.
If the rest of the economy is more buoyant than I have guessed, it changes the crossover by a few years at most.
Does anyone think this is possible? If so, please tell me how.
H