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Old 02-11-2010, 04:19 PM   #21
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Old 02-11-2010, 04:24 PM   #22
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I checked not retired, although I earned my KMA hat a while back.

Surprisingly, I find I don't mind this job. Perhaps because it is optional and I know it. This time of year I wouldn't be doing anything else anyway and when the weather gets decent again I'll ask to cut back to part time. With all the snow piled high it looks like it might be May before I can ride the motorcycle again.
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Old 02-11-2010, 04:39 PM   #23
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Not retired yet.......

(We need one of those weepy smilies.)
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Not retired yet.......

(We need one of those weepy smilies.)
We have this one: It's one of the extra smilies that you can see if you hit "More" under the smilies.
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Old 02-11-2010, 06:17 PM   #25
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Molly is retired ....BUT..........fell off the wagon and had a couple of short term gigs (weeks) that yielded some income.

Happy Mardi Gras!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dat's fun.
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We have this one: It's one of the extra smilies that you can see if you hit "More" under the smilies.
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Old 02-11-2010, 06:21 PM   #27
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Never, ever, EVER going to become a wage slave again, even if it was the end of the world.
Yeah, but are you really a "slave" if you're financially independent to the point where you can tell 'em to shove it if sucks or they give you a bunch of crap? To me, it's the FI aspect of it that is the key liberating force.
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Old 02-11-2010, 06:22 PM   #28
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Not working, but have never ruled out going back to something that I enjoy doing eventually, or maybe not, because I really enjoy what I'm doing now. Being a VITA volunteer makes me realize how much I also enjoy helping people. Not sure if that could lead to a job down the road or just more volunteering.
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Yeah, but are you really a "slave" if you're financially independent to the point where you can tell 'em to shove it if sucks or they give you a bunch of crap? To me, it's the FI aspect of it that is the key liberating force.
Well, then it's consensual enslavement and while that's different from the true semi-enslavement of work, there's something just a wee bit kinky about that, from my perspective. Nope! I'm not going to work FOR anybody, for wages, ever again. There is not going to be any "them" to whom I can say "shove it".

But then bear in mind that I'm newly retired, and just tasted freedom in recent weeks, and perhaps a bit wildly enthusiastic....
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Well, it's your poll, so your definition.

In my opinion I'd call it "retired" if you are financially independent to the point where the FIRE numbers still work even without a part-time income -- in other words, you're still semi-w*rking because you *want* to and not because you *have* to.
FI doesnt equal RE (or retired for that matter)! FI describes a persons financial life whereas retired describes a persons working life; past, present and future intent. let me explain the work life part: past in that the person has to have worked or said person cant be retired; presently cant be working; and must have the intent that they arent going to be working in the future, otherwise they are just unemployed or on sabbatical. of course it helps to be FI if you want to be retired.


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Yeah, but are you really a "slave" if you're financially independent to the point where you can tell 'em to shove it if sucks or they give you a bunch of crap? To me, it's the FI aspect of it that is the key liberating force.
yes FI can be the liberating force but if you dont stop working, you arent liberated
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yes FI can be the liberating force but if you dont stop working, you arent liberated
But wait, if you are truly liberated then can't you choose to work if you want to? Now I am arguing Ziggy's side. These questions are so complex.

Oh well. I just know that I am retired and I am very happy about that fact.
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yes FI can be the liberating force but if you dont stop working, you arent liberated
I disagree. If you are working because you like it AND you are financially free to leave it at any time if you no longer want to do it, that is not any kind of "enslavement." One could certainly say it's not "retirement," but it's not like you are bound to your job by the desperate need for more paychecks.
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Old 02-11-2010, 07:54 PM   #33
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What about this...

1) Retired Military

2) Coach Basketball and Baseball for 3 hours max per day (November-Apr)

3) Part-Time work at local golf course 10 hours max per week (Nov-Apr)

4) Part-Time work at local golf course 30 hours max per week (May-Oct)

I don't consider any of this "work"...It is more of a fun thing to do to make money.
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I may need to revote. One of the little ole ladies that I plowed snow for (gratis) slipped a $20 bill into my mailbox.
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The problem is retirement is as long or longer than our working lives . We all need ways to fill that time and if it's volunteer work , a hobby, travel,a sport , dancing , writing ,browsing museums or a part time job kudos to all of us who successfully fill our time and lead productive lives for many years and none of the choices should be looked down on IMHO ! They are all just ways to fill up time Happily !
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Who is already retired?

...and here I thought it was a simple and direct question...silly me...
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I am already into my fifth year of retirement. I highly recommend it to everyone!
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...........Nope! I'm not going to work FOR anybody, for wages, ever again. There is not going to be any "them" to whom I can say "shove it".

But then bear in mind that I'm newly retired, and just tasted freedom in recent weeks, and perhaps a bit wildly enthusiastic....
The only one for me to tell "shove it" is, um.....me! And it's gonna stay dat way 'til they stick me in a hole in the ground and shovel dirt in my face!

In 1 month and 28 days, I'll have been retired for 3 years......and I'm still wildly enthusiastic!!!
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Still working full time.
Me too - bummer.
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