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The day my mortgage is paid off IS the day I retire! The deduction is nice, but only because I can't afford to pay off the mortgage anyway...
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Re: Shiller - "We now have a Real Estate Bubble"..
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No mortgage! No fed. income taxes! Don't miss either one.

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The day my mortgage is paid off IS the day I retire! The deduction is nice, but only because I can't afford to pay off the mortgage anyway...
would you forgo maxing out in retirement accounts to pay off a 4.875% mortgage? We max out simple IRA for me, 401k for my spouse and roth IRA for each of us.
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xprinter, your question is very germane to my situation, we debated this very point and opted to max out 401k and IRA's rather than pay off the mortgage (wish I had 4.875, we are sitting at 5% even for a 20 year mortgage). But the math works out that when the mortgage is paid off the various investment accounts should be plenty big to retire on. It just worked out that way. If we do better than expected, we'll start sending extra money to the mortgage to retire earlier.
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Old 04-11-2005, 01:40 PM   #25
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Well, you had to bring up those low-interest mortgages.

We went through the same discussion about six months ago. The numbers either have the odds on their side, or the future will be different, or you pay off the mortgage to be able to sleep at night.

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Re: Shiller - "We now have a Real Estate Bubble"..

Saw that thread, probably should make a top ten of all time list on this board (Hey, someone should ask Dory to put the best threads into an archive hall of fame sub-section-if nothing else the same questions won't be asked over and over again). I'm not making early payments, I'd rather invest the money with such a nice low mortgage rate, but when the twenty years are up I'll just leave the house paid off-it's definitely a sleep better at night thing.
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would you forgo maxing out in retirement accounts to pay off a 4.875% mortgage?
Paying of a 4.875% mortgage should be a criminal offense.

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Listened to an Interview with Robert Shiller for about an hour. He talked about the current real estate Bubble and likened it to the Tech Stock Bubble. He said that certain areas of the country are clearly overpriced and when the air comes out of them, It will be painful.

He said that real estate has all the classic symptoms of a bubble. - The can't lose mentality and making huge amounts of money.

He said that stocks are overvalued, but there is no bubble, because nobody likes stocks. There is not enough 'stupid money' being thrown at stocks. All the stupid money is going towards real estate.
I saw Shiller on a CNBC Town Hall about the real estate bubble a few days ago. The Bulls blew him out of the water, in my opinion. Granted, his performance on TV doesn't mean he's wrong, but the arguments he made were easily overcome by the other panelists.
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Shiller needs to read Bernstein's Spring ed Efficient Frontier.

A real estate bubble going 'pop' doesn't seem anything near as bad as the stock version - except in certain minority instances.

Now of course my brother in law a mining engineer took his worst haircut in RE when the mine closed.



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(Hey, someone should ask Dory to put the best threads into an archive hall of fame sub-section-if nothing else the same questions won't be asked over and over again).
I occasionally think about compiling a "best threads" list, but then I realize it's unpaid work and I have better things to do. I'm guessing others here come to the same conclusion whenver it crosses their minds.
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