I understand your frustration Ziggy and the sense of unfairness you feel. I'm not going to be getting a pension at all, so my natural economic interest lies with those who would cut them. But, as you rightfully suggest, we should at least have an open, honest and, above all, calm debate about what to do.
I think there are certain factors in this debate that are often assumed but unstated and which are just not true.
1. Some argue as if all private sector employees had defined benefit pensions and lost them. I'm sure that someone here has actual data, but it seems to me that all my adult life, and certainly the last 20 years, the vast majority of private sector employees have had defined contribution (401k) plans. And not all defined benefit plans have be eliminated or frozen. So there are a substantial number, perhaps the majority, of private sector workers who are not the potential victims of a "double screwing". Those people complain loudly because they don't like taxes and, at least it appears to me, that they are envious.
2. Most appear to assume that all taxes go into the pockets of public employees. Again, I don't have actual figures, but I do know that a substantial amount of our tax money goes right back out the door to private companies who are government vendors. Consider, for example, the cost of building a new submarine for the Navy. The overwhelming majority of that money goes to Electric Boat or Newport News Shipbuilding. Very little goes to public employees. Thus, when we say "let's cut the budget deficit by cutting pay or benefits of public employees", we are making the assumption that the cause of the deficit is the employees, not paying huge sums to private vendors. Consider, for example, a situation where the state builds an unnecessary building and it causes a $1 million deficit. Because we don't like deficits, we cut the pay of public employees by the collective amount of $1 million. We have just made them pay 100 cent dollars to close the budget gap because we were unwilling to pay 6 cent dollars (the top tax rate in my state) by raising our taxes.
On defined benefits, the research I've done shows that during the height of DB in the 70s less than 1/3 of private sector employees were covered by a defined benefits. Up until the 401K law the majority had no retirement plan. Now days IIRC the numbers are about 15% for DB and about 35-40% have no retirement plan.
For me this issue isn't a desired to screw the public service employees. It is a simple economics we can't afford the state and local pension plans even with the current retirees much less adding new ones.
Time magazine has good
article about the bankrupt states, and there is no doubt that current state workers are suffering with furloughs, pay cuts, and layoffs. Needless to say private sector folks have been hurt, with 10% out of work, another 5% underemployed and a large group who have given up looking. Among those with jobs, pay cuts, 401K matches, and increased workload are the rule not the exception. Even the long term unemployed just lost their minimal unemployment checks yesterday.
Retirees have also been hit, the medical benefits associated with mom's survivor pension are being cut, and plenty of folks have seen reduction in the pension through bankruptcy (e.g. GM, Chrysler) or when the PBGC took them over.
For retirees, like myself without pension, we have been hit hard also. In addition to the big hits on our portfolio value, we have also seen in our income drop. Interest rates have plummeted, formerly high dividend paying stocks, like GE, Pfizer, and now BP, have slashed dividends, and virtually every bank dividend has been slashed to $.01 or $.05, So not only has the value of our nest egg gone down but the income potential going forward has also decrease and the prospects of it increasing in the future (due to higher interest or dividends) looks dicey.
One of the big exceptions in the dreary picture is public employee pensioner. While their nest eggs have suffered, many/most of them have pensions large enough to meet their needs. Now I would say good for these folks if their pensions were adequately funded. They aren't even close .
In public pension fund and after pension fund I have looked at, and backed up the Pew Center, Washington Post, NY Times reporters etc the pension are severely under funded. The total assets per retiree is in the range of $150,000 and $300,000 and yet they they pay pensions averaging between $22,000 and $30,000 to retirees who typical retire in their 50s or early 60s. Now you don't need to be a FIRECalc wiz, or an actuarial to know that you can't pay out $30K/year on $300K in assets in today's interest and investment environment.
The California, Penn, or Illinois pension funds have been through the same horrible last couple of years and face the same crappy investment climate as the ClifP pension fund and I've outperformed the last two. I've cut spending why can't they? This isn't a matter of just raising taxes a little We are facing a 1 to 3 trillion shortfall in pension funds, that we can't monetize by printing money. That is roughly $25,000 per household if you double your states 6% tax rate that means a household making 100K a year needs 4 years to pay for is share of the pension fund deficit. Honestly arguing over baby steps like freezing COLA, and putting new workers in a way less generous system is just crazy.