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Old 04-02-2006, 10:28 PM   #21
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Ok sorry still lost and having a blonde moment.

Why would he have to hold it between his knees?
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Re: The Story of Frujinator
Old 04-02-2006, 10:35 PM   #22
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He means that it would have been illegal for Ballmer to sneak one out and not have it show up on the books. The law, in theory, is supposed to prevent things like Enron.

SOX is a real big deal and creates lots of headaches even for those of us not in the finance world. As a software engineer, I deal with it almost daily.
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Old 04-02-2006, 10:37 PM   #23
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Thanks for the info.

Interesting, how do you deal with it as a software engineer specifically if you are not an accountant
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Old 04-02-2006, 10:38 PM   #24
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Hee...This reminds me of why my husband was more interested in me than in the pretty younger things he was also dating at the time. I knew what Jack Nicholson's waitress was supposed to hold between her knees--and why.
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Nicholson: I'd like a plain omelette, no potatoes, tomatoes instead, a cup of coffee, and wheat toast.
Waitress: (She points to the menu) No substitutions.
Nicholson: What do you mean? You don't have any tomatoes?
Waitress: Only what's on the menu. You can have a number two - a plain omelette. It comes with cottage fries and rolls.
Nicholson: Yeah, I know what it comes with. But it's not what I want.
Waitress: Well, I'll come back when you make up your mind.
Nicholson: Wait a minute. I have made up my mind. I'd like a plain omelette, no potatoes on the plate, a cup of coffee, and a side order of wheat toast.
Waitress: I'm sorry, we don't have any side orders of toast...an English muffin or a coffee roll.
Nicholson: What do you mean you don't make side orders of toast? You make sandwiches, don't you?
Waitress: Would you like to talk to the manager?
Nicholson: ...You've got bread and a toaster of some kind?
Waitress: I don't make the rules.
Nicholson: OK, I'll make it as easy for you as I can. I'd like an omelette, plain, and a chicken salad sandwich on wheat toast, no mayonnaise, no butter, no lettuce. And a cup of coffee.
Waitress: A number two, chicken sal san, hold the butter, the lettuce and the mayonnaise. And a cup of coffee. Anything else?
Nicholson: Yeah. Now all you have to do is hold the chicken, bring me the toast, give me a check for the chicken salad sandwich, and you haven't broken any rules.
Waitress (spitefully): You want me to hold the chicken, huh?
Nicholson: I want you to hold it between your knees.
Waitress (turning and telling him to look at the sign that says, "No Substitutions") Do you see that sign, sir? Yes, you'll all have to leave. I'm not taking any more of your smartness and sarcasm.
Nicholson: You see this sign? (He sweeps all the water glasses and menus off the table.)
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Hee...This reminds me of why my husband was more interested in me than in the pretty younger things he was also dating at the time. I knew what Jack Nicholson's waitress was supposed to hold between her knees--and why.
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Interesting, how do you deal with it as a software engineer specifically if you are not an accountant
There are a LOT of rules that we have to adhere to, actually. The most notable being that one person cannot have complete access to update code in production if they wrote the code. For instance, one of the sites I worked on had a shopping cart component. I could not make changes to the cart then put them into production without help. The reason is I could have compromised the code and just pushed out something that deposited all the charges into my bank account, for instance.

That's a really simplified answer, but that's the gist of it. In theory, it's supposed to only apply to code that impacts financials, but most companies apply SOX across the board. The reason being that if the software isn't affecting your bottom line, why are you paying to have it developed :
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What is Sarbanes Oxley?
You are almost done with college and getting a degree in accounting and SOX has never come up in any of your accounting classes
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No I mean I have like two more years to go. I guess halfway done. I just finishing GED requirements, I took a few accounting classes, but not in the program yet.
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That young man had CFB running all over the back-court, and when he got good and winded, he started hitting lob shots at the net.
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Wifes watching "the sopranos" and whoever is doing the writing this season...sucks.
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Wifes watching "the sopranos" and whoever is doing the writing this season...sucks.
Amen to that! Just hurry up and start a mob war, finish off everybody, it's the last season! All this deep/weird stuff is getting out of hand.
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I think Gandolfini might have said "Ok, I'll do the season for that paltry $9 million, but I get to do 3/4 of it lying in a bed with my eyes closed. And everyone else has to squabble like a bunch of 9 year old girls." :P
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Deja vu: http://www.examnotes.net/archive18-2003-8-1019341.html
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Well, back to the topic and CPA...

You can get a CPA and not be a CFO... it gives you a lot of options that you will not get with some of the other business degrees... yes, you will more than likely be doing something financial, but it does not have to be accounting...

And as for the hours... way back when, I was putting in 80 to 100 hour weeks during tax season.. when I could only find time at 3 AM to wash my clothes, I decided to chuck it all... now just do financial analysis for a decent wage, but do not work the long hours anymore... and I do not care to get into a job that requires 10 to 12 (or more) hours a day plus weekends... since you have already made $100,000 in a year, you will learn that money is not everything no matter how much you think so now.. as the other CPA said (can not remember his name) you can make a lot of money if you want, but you have to do the time.. stay at a Big 4 firm and you will get to the $500,000 per year range if that is what you want... but not me.
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The that the company I work for has indeed cycled thru CFOs every couple years, and they are indeed always here when I arrive and here when I leave.
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The that the company I work for has indeed cycled thru CFOs every couple years, and they are indeed always here when I arrive and here when I leave.
At the mini-megacorp where I toiled for 27 years prepared myself for not-so-early retirement, I counted 13 CFOs during my imprisonment employment. The standing joke was that box on the org. chart was going to be changed from "Chief Financial Officer" to "The Widowmaker Postion".

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Well, back to the topic and CPA...

You can get a CPA and not be a CFO... it gives you a lot of options that you will not get with some of the other business degrees... yes, you will more than likely be doing something financial, but it does not have to be accounting...

And as for the hours... way back when, I was putting in 80 to 100 hour weeks during tax season.. when I could only find time at 3 AM to wash my clothes, I decided to chuck it all... now just do financial analysis for a decent wage, but do not work the long hours anymore... and I do not care to get into a job that requires 10 to 12 (or more) hours a day plus weekends... since you have already made $100,000 in a year, you will learn that money is not everything no matter how much you think so now.. as the other CPA said (can not remember his name) you can make a lot of money if you want, but you have to do the time.. stay at a Big 4 firm and you will get to the $500,000 per year range if that is what you want... but not me.

Thanks for all the responses guys, but to quote the above poster, thats one of many reasons that becoming a CPA is lucrative. It will give me many options. I can go work for the state, start my own firm maybe, etc, etc.

And regards to becoming a CFO, I wouldn't mind being thrown around every few years if my income will be $300k per year. Bare in mind I am a VERY good saver

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