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Old 07-13-2008, 11:35 AM   #141
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Thanks for the link, I'll see if he agrees with me.
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Thanks for the link, I'll see if he agrees with me.
Nords?? You are sending him there naked and unarmed?

Yikes!

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Well, I'd say that pretty much covers the entire spectrum of market forecasts.


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CFB, how much are you down this year so far, still cranking in those 14% returns? Expecting 14% returns, now that's really really really .
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Yikes!

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I know very well where he sent me, don't worry Unclemick I'll be ok.
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CFB, how much are you down this year so far, still cranking in those 14% returns? Expecting 14% returns, now that's really really really .
I honestly have no idea. I've been a little too busy to worry about things that dont matter very much.

Its also quite pleasing to not be a [edited by mod] who cant do math.
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I honestly have no idea. I've been a little too busy to worry about things that dont matter very much.

Its also quite pleasing to not be a [edited by mod] who cant do math.
Nice! Keep up the good work!

Hey Nords, are there no boundaries on the ERF? I seem to remember you jumping on me awhile back for much less. If I remember right I was proven to be correct on that one, after the CFB abuse.
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At least you knew who was being talking about and the proper context.

We can be a little vague sometimes.
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Any interest I might have had in BofA ended when they bought Countrywide. I don't want to own a bank that basically threw out all underwriting standards and gave loans to anyone who could fog a mirror. BofA seems to think that they have a grasp on the size of the Countrywide problem, but I have enough doubts to avoid the stock.

I don't really follow Wachovia. Fannie shareholders may be in trouble, but the bondholders will get paid. It may cost us taxpayers some money in the end, but I don't think it will threaten the fabric of society.

GE's earnings weren't great, but they seem to be holding their own.

Credit is widely available to credit-worthy individuals. It's less available than it used to be (and it costs a little more), but that is probably a good thing.

The last thing we need in this country is more credit.


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IMO, trying to avoid ruin by balancing everything so well that there is little upside is about the same as being in cash. I would much rather know whether the current crisis is going to go away, or get worse, and act on that basis. When I look at prices in the last few weeks for BofA, Wachovia, Fannie Mae, and GE for that matter, I am getting worried that things might actually be different this time. Can this country prosper without readily available cheap credit? Call that a buy signal if you wish but if the financial blowup doesn't stop soon, a better buy signal may be at a lot lower price than right now. Of course, I waiting for someone with the crystal ball, or the MBA degree, to tell me how bad things really are with the financials.
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Hey Nords, are there no boundaries on the ERF? I seem to remember you jumping on me awhile back for much less. If I remember right I was proven to be correct on that one, after the CFB abuse.
I give up.

You have a nice life now...
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You have a nice life now...
Sorry for bothering you....
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Since anything now goes, CFB you are a [edited by moderator]. I hope your full of risk 14% per year portfolio has lost at least 20% from last October, }
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RockOn, while I agree with your anger at their personal attacks, you might edit that. They'll certainly grab and copy and tattle to the mods quickly.

Stick around, your opinion is just as valid as the twins.
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Since anything now goes, CFB you are a [moderator edit]
Goodbye. Have a nice life. You're on my ignore list.
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RockOn, while I agree with your anger at their personal attacks, you might edit that. They'll certainly grab and copy and tattle to the mods quickly.

Stick around, your opinion is just as valid as the twins.
If kicked out by the clan I'll really don't care. I didn't start it, so what ever happens....happens. I am not taking [edited by mod]

Now back to life.
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My wife went to cash in mid-Oct, not peak, but close enough to be very smug right now in her refusal to openly gloat at my "all-index, Bernsteinian Portfolio" performance.

So, I need a good positive scenario to make me feel emboldened to predict a glowing recovery for my portfolio that will surpass her performance. I'm down 19% since Oct and she is up 4%.

I keep mentioning the ravages of inflation that are eating her alive but she isn't feeling my vibes.

Can someone paint a less than 3 year positive scenario? For instance...
1. Banks have taken their writeoffs and are in great financial shape. Solid books.
2. Airlines are getting lean and mean just in time for oil to plunge back to $100.
3. The mortgage mess is not nearly as bad as the media is presenting.
4. The Fed is in solid control here and have a great plan in place.
5. The economy simply took a pause, ready for full steam ahead.
6. Iraq war will be concluded by 1-Jan-2009.
7. Iran and Israel will conclude an exchange of ambassadors and a new treaty.


I'm hoping for all that but can anyone tell me holding my VTI, VEU, VWO, BNDS port is going to be a winner over her CD/MM port?
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Ah, a [edited by mod] who cant do math, has some anger management problems, and a potty mouth.

That must be a hard way to go through life. Maybe a notch or two below [edited by mod]

And my portfolio is not at all full of risk. As of the last time I checked a few months ago, I was actually up for the year. Dang vanguards performance tab on their web site hasnt been working for me the last few months.

But as soon as they fix it, I'll be sure to get you the information that you so desperately need.
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