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Old 09-22-2013, 10:18 AM   #21
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Old 09-22-2013, 11:10 AM   #22
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Wellsley; cash balance pension plan serves as part of bond portfolio as it is pegged to five year treasury, but has a guarantee of no less than 2.8%. Occasionally individual bonds & GE Capital Savings account paying .9 % for short term cash bucket.
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Old 09-22-2013, 01:30 PM   #23
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Currently all our tax free/advantaged space is in Wellesley and a little VBTLX for portfolio ratio adjustment. Taxable all stock with about 13% cash waiting for distributions at the end of this quarter to do some adjustments/buying.
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Old 09-22-2013, 01:33 PM   #24
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short/medium/global/muni/high income funds. About 10 in all. Then hold a few old E bonds & individual munis. Not Treasuries. Pay way too little.
Interesting information. I kind of got the feeling that more people held more treasuries and less corp bonds, but it appears to be just the opposite, though this is a small sampling. I agree with poster above. I find it hard to purchase treasuries at the prevailing rates. But of course if we had another
2008-2009, or a 20's depression again, I might feel differently. How secure the short and intermediate bonds would be, I don't know.
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Old 09-22-2013, 02:27 PM   #25
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New contributions for the 401k are going into the SV fund to secure over 5 years expenses as a base. I plan to start W/D's in approx 2 years.
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Old 09-22-2013, 03:14 PM   #26
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Interesting information. I kind of got the feeling that more people held more treasuries and less corp bonds, but it appears to be just the opposite, though this is a small sampling. I agree with poster above. I find it hard to purchase treasuries at the prevailing rates. But of course if we had another
2008-2009, or a 20's depression again, I might feel differently. How secure the short and intermediate bonds would be, I don't know.
My intermediate bond funds are all in tax free or tax deferred. If the stock market sold off as in 2001 or 2008, I'd not hesitate to move them to Treasuries. I actually monitor on a monthly basis to force myself to track the numbers. No way would I hold them in a 1930's type of decline. In 2008 there was no way to really know which way things would head so one has to be proactive.

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Old 09-22-2013, 03:30 PM   #27
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When I fantasize about "do-overs" in my life, one of the most recurring is to have purchased more - a LOT more - I-Bonds when they were paying 3%++ back in the early 00's. I bought the limit (60K) in '03 and wish I had done so in several other years. BUT, there are few do-over's in life, so I just trudge on - and occasionally fantasize.
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Old 09-22-2013, 07:24 PM   #28
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Old 09-22-2013, 09:20 PM   #29
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Anyone buying closed end muni or bond funds that are now trading at large discounts ?
Watching BIT for my IRA. A multi sector managed by Blackrock. Offered this March at $20, and a premium. NAV has held up well, and price is now at an 11% discount, resulting in an almost 20% loss for IPO buyers. Will probably be more selling as the idiots who bought on the offering take the tax loss before the end of the year.

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Watching BIT for my IRA. A multi sector managed by Blackrock. Offered this March at $20, and a premium. NAV has held up well, and price is now at an 11% discount, resulting in an almost 20% loss for IPO buyers. Will probably be more selling as the idiots who bought on the offering take the tax loss before the end of the year.

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I couldn't find an ER anywhere. Any idea what the ER is? Not keen on the amount of leverage they have.
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Old 09-24-2013, 12:38 PM   #32
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If somebody had no bonds, wouldn't now (historically low interest rates) be a bad time to start buying them?

I do have some short term cash that's doing nothing; I'm assuming a short term bond fund would give some miniscule return with virtually no risk?
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When I fantasize about "do-overs" in my life, one of the most recurring is to have purchased more - a LOT more - I-Bonds when they were paying 3%++ back in the early 00's. I bought the limit (60K) in '03 and wish I had done so in several other years. BUT, there are few do-over's in life, so I just trudge on - and occasionally fantasize.
Same here, who would have known that such a conservative investment at the time would be a very good one now with interest rates so low. Maxed out in 2001 and 2003, can't remember why didn't buy them in 2002. I remember using a rebate credit card to buy them also. But the Treasury caught on and discontinued credit card purchases.
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If somebody had no bonds, wouldn't now (historically low interest rates) be a bad time to start buying them?

I do have some short term cash that's doing nothing; I'm assuming a short term bond fund would give some miniscule return with virtually no risk?
Somewhat where I am sitting....I have some of it covered with the G+F funds in TSP....but I should have some with my Vanguard money as well and just can't pull the trigger. Might stick some more in Div Growth instead.
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Tried to buy a new issue of CHSXP preferred at 7.785% at par last week but got aced out.
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Tried to buy a new issue of CHSXP preferred at 7.785% at par last week but got aced out.

CHSXP is not a bond - it is a preferred stock with call option in 2023. The issuing company, CHS, Inc. is a solid and well managed entity, an Agricultural Co-op.

Having said all that, it looks like a worthwhile investment with a good yield, and low risk of default.
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If somebody had no bonds, wouldn't now (historically low interest rates) be a bad time to start buying them?
It depends on when you plan on selling them.
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Right now I use Vanguard's Total Bond Market Index.

What I do is put all bonds in my 401k, REITs in my Roth IRA and stocks in taxable. So I didn't really have a choice on what to use for bonds, but I'm perfectly happy with it.
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