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Old 02-01-2010, 08:11 PM   #141
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And the beat(ing) goes on...

Have been shipped out to the hinterlands for a month with the useless boss' pet. Guess who got promoted today? The rectal suction provider wasting oxygen in the next cube down here with me. The other promotes in the department are chiefly distinguished by their ability to deep throat.

I am so done with this nonsense. Dying for internal openings, and if they do not materialize soon I may avail myself of all the enticing external openings I keep seeing. In the mean time, I think I will be refusing any more extended travel and extra projects. Grrrr...
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I am assuming you are in a government position based on the fact that ability has nothing to do with promotions. Get yourself out of there before you go postal.
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I'm sorry you're having such a rough time brewer. Make your plans and act accordingly.

In the meantime remind yourself that one day you will no longer have to play their games... see yourself lounging on the patio in retirement sipping a cold beer. That day will come....
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Brewer, that happened to me too. It was very difficult to watch less qualified, worthless people get all the promotions, not to mention credit for the work I was doing. Eventually I got my promotion but by that time my morale was really low.

You know what? It really makes no difference to me now. None of it does. Once you are retired, the situation will be behind you. Meanwhile, there's not much you can do except to keep telling yourself that they made their deals, and you made yours. Plus, you can look at yourself in the mirror in the mornings.
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Decided to take matters into my hands today. I reached out to someone I worked with over the past year and asked if he had or knew of any openings. He said he would love to have me and we may be able to get the headcount necessary. He will work on his boss and I will go pitch the grand poohpah when I get back from my trip. It would be an interesting spot to be and I like everyone on the team. We will see if it develops. If not, I will be working on other things as well.
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Good for you brewer....I'm proud of you.
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Decided to take matters into my hands today. I reached out to someone I worked with over the past year and asked if he had or knew of any openings. He said he would love to have me and we may be able to get the headcount necessary. He will work on his boss and I will go pitch the grand poohpah when I get back from my trip. It would be an interesting spot to be and I like everyone on the team. We will see if it develops. If not, I will be working on other things as well.
It's a good first action. It puts your fate into your hands and gives you options and a sense of possibilities of better opportunities in your future. Much better coping strategy that getting punched over and over, then saying "thank you sir, may I have another" like it is so easy to do.
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Brewer, good on your for taking control of your situation. You will have the best revenge when you leave and the losers as left behind to take on your workload. The suckers and the idiot boss will have no-one to palm things onto so they are soon going to look like the incompetent fools they are.
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Bravo to you, Brewer. The best way to win the race is to take the first step.

I did several transfers by my request during my career when I saw that things were swinging against me politically, just because.
I learned a lot by doing the transfers and was more well rounded as a person than those who chose to be stuck in one place.
It's always important to have someone with a "pull" on your side.
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Brewer, that happened to me too. It was very difficult to watch less qualified, worthless people get all the promotions, not to mention credit for the work I was doing. Eventually I got my promotion but by that time my morale was really low.

You know what? It really makes no difference to me now. None of it does. Once you are retired, the situation will be behind you. Meanwhile, there's not much you can do except to keep telling yourself that they made their deals, and you made yours. Plus, you can look at yourself in the mirror in the mornings.

So very true, especially about the part of being able to at yourself in the mirror in the mornings. I remember my "moment of truth" when I decided to do a "Johnny Paycheck" and decline an offer to be outsourced as a contracter (after working 20+ years) or take the outsource and be stuck in a rut. In my heart of hearts, though it was a risky and unconventional move, I knew it was best to move on and be able to face myself in the mornings.
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I am assuming you are in a government position based on the fact that ability has nothing to do with promotions. Get yourself out of there before you go postal.
And I'm assuming you are/were a gov't worker based on your assumption that worthless @ss monkeys aren't the ones that usually get promoted in private industry.
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Old 02-02-2010, 08:16 PM   #152
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And I'm assuming you are/were a gov't worker based on your assumption that worthless @ss monkeys aren't the ones that usually get promoted in private industry.
In fairness, I have seen asshats get promoted in all kinds of organizations. The only place I have ever worked that did not have that dynamic was a 12 person hedge fund where the 3 principals were a quarter of the employees and showed up every day like the rest of us.

I currently do not work for a private employer, tho. I would have to say that I have not seen a more hidebound culture in any private company I have worked for.
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This thread confuses me.

You note that you are “one of the highest performers in the department and the uber boss is quite well aware of how much he needs me … they essentially cannot afford to lose me, so I have a certain measure of protection … senior management knows full well they desperately need me”.

If all that is actually correct, I don’t understand why you are worried about “the non-trivial (sic) threat of retaliation: passed over for promotion, raises, bonuses; choice of assignments given; who gets stuck travelling for business (sometimes for months); who gets put under what sub boss …”. Clearly, the higher-ups cannot afford to punish an irreplaceable, essential, key employee like you: especially when you have so many attractive options elsewhere.

Speaking of which: I am also puzzled about your decision to look for transfer opportunities within the place you currently work at. Here are some of the comments that you have made about that place of business:
  1. It has a “hidebound culture”;
  2. It prefers “group kumbaya session(s)” to action;
  3. It promotes “phenomenally bad” managers;
  4. It has “an ossified culture that takes years (literally) to get rid of someone”;
  5. “In the fine traditions of the organization, it appears they are spreading the blame as thinly as possible”;
  6. “the culture … is clearly more about checking the box than solving problems”;
  7. half of your fellow employees are “troglodytes (you) despise”;
  8. “the senior management manual in this place dictates that they support middle mgmt vs. the peons”
Against all this, you have mentioned only two good points:
  1. you believe in the organization’s mission; and
  2. you really like megaboss, notwithstanding that he is a hands-off manager and has allowed all sorts of problems to develop/continue on his watch.
Given the above, I don’t understand why you are wasting your time “documenting things” and looking for internal transfer opportunities. Since you are confident in your marketability and acknowledge that there are “a surprising number of positions … enticing external openings I keep seeing”, simply take your own advice and “vote with (your) feet to solve the problem. Aggravating, but not the end of the world”.
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...simply take your own advice and “vote with (your) feet to solve the problem. Aggravating, but not the end of the world”.
I completely agree with your analysis. While I can understand the OP's situation from a personal POV (hey - we've all been there sometime in our working career), it sometimes comes down that you are the one that needs to make the change - neither the organization, nor the people in it can do it for you.

In my 40+ years of gainful employment I often felt many of the same frustrations of the OP. During that time, I was also told that if I didn't like the situation, I had two options (the front door, or the back door).

You can spend time (sometimes many years) being frustrated with a situation and many times it affects your work, your health, and your family. Three times I took one of those doors, and was better for it.

The answer is really in your own mind, and the actions you need to take are up to you; it is your life...
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Have been shipped out to the hinterlands for a month with the useless boss' pet. Guess who got promoted today? The rectal suction provider wasting oxygen in the next cube down here with me. The other promotes in the department are chiefly distinguished by their ability to deep throat.
With all due respect, with an attitude like this about your employer and co-workers, how could you NOT get promoted? Do you feel this much angst when cashing your paycheck? If you are this unhappy, leave. No other option possible, you have developed too much animosity toward your employer to go anywhere in their organization anyway. And seriously, you wouldn't want to get promoted and have to work alongside "deep-throating rectal suction providers" you so abhor... Maybe you need to look inward as well as outward as to why this always seem to happen.

Good luck in your job search.
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It is nice to get so much support from fellow posters.

The outcome of all the hand wrining and HR interrogation appears it will be the formal combination of two messed up, dysfunctional teams that worked hand in glove anyway. Rooty. Toot.

OTOH, one of the people I approached about a spot had a team member get tapped for a spot elsewhere in the organization, so now he has an opening. Looking promising.
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It is nice to get so much support from fellow posters.

The outcome of all the hand wrining and HR interrogation appears it will be the formal combination of two messed up, dysfunctional teams that worked hand in glove anyway. Rooty. Toot.

OTOH, one of the people I approached about a spot had a team member get tapped for a spot elsewhere in the organization, so now he has an opening. Looking promising.
Excellent news.
You are very smart to pursue this route vs grinding in place. BTDT.
Crossing my fingers and toes for you.
Keep us posted.
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Excellent news.
You are very smart to pursue this route vs grinding in place. BTDT.
Crossing my fingers and toes for you.
Keep us posted.
I agree (even though I don't know what BTDT means )

Best of luck Brewer
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I agree (even though I don't know what BTDT means )
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Brewer, good luck on getting that transfer! We'll be cheering you on from the sidelines.
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