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Old 08-09-2013, 10:10 PM   #41
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Old 08-10-2013, 09:56 PM   #42
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Thanks everyone for your responses.. I love this forum
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Old 08-11-2013, 11:18 AM   #44
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mickj; I hope you don't live in MA. The state just made software development consulting subject to a "use tax" of 6.25% in order to underwrite a transportation bill. All contractors in that field are responsible for collecting (if you can) and paying (no choice) a use tax, (think sales tax) into the state. And this law went into effect 5 days after voted upon by the State Legislature.
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Old 08-11-2013, 08:55 PM   #45
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mickj; I hope you don't live in MA. The state just made software development consulting subject to a "use tax" of 6.25% in order to underwrite a transportation bill. All contractors in that field are responsible for collecting (if you can) and paying (no choice) a use tax, (think sales tax) into the state. And this law went into effect 5 days after voted upon by the State Legislature.
Thankfully, No I am not in MA.
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Old 08-11-2013, 11:43 PM   #46
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IMO, the right approach would have been to get both companies into a bidding war for the OP's services. That can't always be arranged, but managers are like other consumers, once they make a choice they tend to become overcommitted to it and will pay up to avoid losing it, just like bidders in any other transactino. I once got 12% more as a result of a bidding war between two companies for my services. Since that became my base for future raises and then for subsequent jobs (I never earned less than that again), that 12% gain was very important over the more than 20 years remaining in my career.

The PTO issue is pretty much a wash. The #2 job pays $474/day. So if he takes 28 unpaid days off reducing his days per year to 204 his annual gross becomes $96,724, pretty close to the "mid 90's" salary of the first job.

Early in my career I always took the job that paid more assuming I thought I could stomach it, and never stayed more than four years.
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IMO, the right approach would have been to get both companies into a bidding war for the OP's services. That can't always be arranged, but managers are like other consumers, once they make a choice they tend to become overcommitted to it and will pay up to avoid losing it, just like bidders in any other transactino. I once got 12% more as a result of a bidding war between two companies for my services. Since that became my base for future raises and then for subsequent jobs (I never earned less than that again), that 12% gain was very important over the more than 20 years remaining in my career.

The PTO issue is pretty much a wash. The #2 job pays $474/day. So if he takes 28 unpaid days off reducing his days per year to 204 his annual gross becomes $96,724, pretty close to the "mid 90's" salary of the first job.

Early in my career I always took the job that paid more assuming I thought I could stomach it, and never stayed more than four years.
Don't forget though that as a 1099 a contractor is responsible for paying the self employment tax, which amounts to 7.65 percent, that the employer pays in a W-2 situation.
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Both jobs are W2. Apparently, the commute places #2 as the least favorable choice.

What do you know of management at each location? I can tell you from experience that a mediocre manager can ruin many things, including the desire to be in the office.

You haven't mentioned much about your plans for the future. A contract job may better prepare you. which choice do you see as a technically more desirable choice?
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Old 05-26-2014, 10:36 AM   #50
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quick update:

I was able to get hired on full-time at job #2.

With bonus I will be making more than I was offered at job #1.

The health care benefits and 401k match are pretty excellent.

After so many years at IBM (previous job), I still feel like I won the lottery. IBM is horrible place to work these days.
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Old 05-26-2014, 12:34 PM   #51
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IBM is horrible place to work these days.
Working with their products is bad enough for me... every job I've had so far has been at an IBM shop.
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