Hip pain ????

[eytonxav]

Thought it was sciatica, but after doing more reading, learned about periformis syndrome and started doing yoga and other exercises specifically to target the nerves in that area, and making sure I had rest days as well. The pain is pretty much gone, just have occasional stiffness and mild soreness when I overdo it, but I'm keeping up with the stretches (the yoga and then the hip abduction ones like the clamshell, side leg lifts, etc. from the link below)


https://runnersconnect.net/running-injury-prevention/piriformis-syndrome-running/

You were getting sciatic pain caused by your performis muscle pressing on your sciatic nerve. I had the same thing and got MAT treatments and exercises that got rid of it in about a month. Sciatic pain is usually caused by some muscle or tendon that presses on the sciatic nerve, and the performis is a common culprit.

 

[Nemo2]

As I've noted before...our healthcare system is great.....if there's nothing wrong with you.

(This in no way reflects upon the medical personnel themselves, they do a damn good job......but, they're swamped.)

So...I got up during the night and my left (usually it's my right) ankle spasmed.... a first. This Wednesday I had dropped off a 'Patient Questionnaire' at a 'Pain Clinic' (a sort of clearing house to redirect sufferers to a variety of doctors/resources), wherein I had indicated that the spasms were confined to one leg only.

We contacted them with this update first thing this a.m. The response was to "Contact the hospital emergency or your doctor" - both of whom had referred me to the clinic and would likely refer me back to them! (Where's Yossarian when you need him?) And even then it could take months before they could see me.

Sciatica Symptoms

Sciatica Symptoms Needing Immediate Medical Attention

When Should I See a Doctor for Treatment?
Watch: When to See a Doctor for Back Pain Video
Rarely, sciatica symptoms that worsen quickly may require immediate surgery. The following symptoms indicate a need for immediate medical care:

Symptoms that continue to get worse rather than improve, which may indicate possible nerve damage, especially if the progressive symptoms are neurological (such as leg weakness).
Symptoms that occur in both legs (called bilateral sciatica)—[-]or that cause bladder or bowel incontinence or dysfunction or altered sensation in the genital area or "saddle area"[/-]—may indicate cauda equina syndrome. Cauda equina syndrome is an acute compression of one or several nerve roots that occurs relatively rarely (in approximately 2% of herniated lumbar disc cases) and can cause paralysis.

 

[W2R]

Complicating the issue is the fact that a very few people without serious issues also get sciatica in both legs at once. Well, that's based only on my own observations and I am not a doctor. But earlier this year I had sciatica in both legs. Wow, was that miserable! I have almost no back issues at all so I attribute that experience entirely to excessively bad luck. I didn't see a doctor or chiropractor and in a few days the problems disappeared.

In your case, since you have other issues going on I think it's smart to have it checked out. But I don't envy the hassle with bureaucracy that you will have to endure in order to do that.

 

[kcowan]

...with the back, sciatica, and now the specter of an aneurysm, it all seems like a house of cards after a ceiling fan has been activated.

Yes the compounding effects of multiple problems seems to test our resolve and upset our exercise regime. It also puts stress on our slow referrals system for specialists.

Love the analogy!
Luckily my plight is less severe but I can feel the breeze from that ceiling fan!

Left leg: plantar fasciitis, spider bite led to 8 days in the hospital (cellulitis and phlebitis), then small broken bone then stretched tendons.
Right leg: stretched tendons

So my walking days are suspended. Major change in exercise regime. Fortunately I can still bike. Just completed a bike/barge trip down The Moselle.

The biking restored my fitness if not my mobility. A trip to the Sports Medicine Clinic at the university got me into an exercise regime to strengthen my tendons. I am now able to walk without pain.

My days of hiking 320 metre high mountains is over for now. It is the angina and COPD that makes that unwise. But biking and level walking is back on.

My dentist thinks a bone graft from my hip will help to restore my upper left mandible. It has the hardness not available from cadaver or artificial bone transplants. I just hope there are no hip-related side effects.

My eye surgeon is not optimistic that he can correct the damage he inflicted on my right retina during the artificial lens securing procedure.

My cardiologist is pleased that my condition seems to be stable, with tachycardia only occurring at high level of physical stress.

My mole man says I am keeping sun exposure at the right level.

My GP is investigating my kidneys.

In your case, since you have other issues going on I think it's smart to have it checked out. But I don't envy the hassle with bureaucracy that you will have to endure in order to do that.

The bureaucracy does work. It just takes time. So if you can survive long enough and can endure the suffering, you eventually get all the referrals that you need. I think Nemo is troubled more because he is living in a small town. When my son lived in Belleville, he went to Toronto for specialist work, most recently for testicular cancer (76% chance of survival). That referral was handled immediately. IOW death gets priority over pain.

 

[Nemo2]

Boy, Keith, you make me seem like the picture of health! Hope your son does well with the testicular cancer......perhaps he can buy Lance Armstrong's old bike, follow his lead and do the Tour de France!

After sitting in Emerg for 5-6 hours, saw a very thorough young doctor* who did a bunch of reflex/strength tests, etc, and couldn't find anything that required immediate attention, although he understood the concern about bilateral sciatica.

Said to contact our Dr. on Monday and try and hustle the Pain Clinic along somewhat, so that I could, (with luck), get some specialist attention.

(*As I've noted previously, I have nothing but praise for the health care personnel......the system...well.....)

 

[d0ug]

When you finally get fed up with doctors joint me. I had a knee pain so bad I went for help got a cortisone injection and though I was fixed a few months later it came back with my knee pain and also one shoulder. This went on until I had both shoulders’ and both hips and one knee all in pain could barley move. The last specialist was a surgeon who told me we need to operate on the shoulder I ask how is that going to fix the knee and he said we will operate on that later I told him he did have no idea of the problem as all are related. After walking out of the office fuming at his ignorance I went home and started to hunt for the answer. First I checked out the medical websites and fond basically the same as they were saying. Then I moved to alternative that was a little more challenging trying to separate the good information from the snake oil salesman. I finally found the answer and it was in nutrition it was not a fast fix because I had many years of eating bad to make up for even in that there was many who claimed that this and that were healthy to eat I found they were wrong. I am now 74 and can run uphill without getting out of breath 70bls lighter and have no pain at all. My doctor says I have the blood pressure of a 15 year old and I joke with him and say yes and I am not giving it back. I will give you a clue the doctor I like is a veterinarian.
I am not going to tell you what to do but pray you will consider checking out good nutrition and surprise yourself. Good Luck

 

[Nemo2]

pray you will consider checking out good nutrition and surprise yourself.

I'm 74 a month from tomorrow.......diet is pretty good, a lot of vegetables/fruit, not a great deal of meat, (especially red), very limited, almost zero, (although an ice cold beer on a very hot day does taste good), alcohol, no pop, no potato chips or related crap.

Now I'm wondering how bad I'd be if I had a lousy diet.

 

[REWahoo]

I'm 74 a month from tomorrow.......diet is pretty good, a lot of vegetables/fruit, not a great deal of meat, (especially red), very limited, almost zero, (although an ice cold beer on a very hot day does taste good), alcohol, no pop, no potato chips or related crap.

Now I'm wondering how bad I'd be if I had a lousy diet.

I suspect your problem is your primary doctor isn't a veterinarian. Bark once if you agree, twice if you don't.

 

[Nemo2]

I suspect your problem is your primary doctor isn't a veterinarian. Bark once if you agree, twice if you don't.

Doc says I'm 518 in dog years.

 

[aja8888]

Doc says I'm 518 in dog years.

Still on hard food yet or have you switched to canned soft food?

 

[Lakedog]

I'm 74 a month from tomorrow.......diet is pretty good, a lot of vegetables/fruit, not a great deal of meat, (especially red), very limited, almost zero, (although an ice cold beer on a very hot day does taste good), alcohol, no pop, no potato chips or related crap.

A friend of mine in his late 60s developed hip pain a couple of years ago - turned out that he was iron deficient. His doc indicated that it is not that unusual in older men, particularly those whose diet is limited in iron rich foods (red meat, eggs, etc). He took iron supplements for a couple of months to get his iron levels back to normal and his pains cleared. The possibility of a vitamin or mineral deficiency might be worth checking.

 

[Nemo2]

A friend of mine in his late 60s developed hip pain a couple of years ago - turned out that he was iron deficient. His doc indicated that it is not that unusual in older men, particularly those whose diet is limited in iron rich foods (red meat, eggs, etc). He took iron supplements for a couple of months to get his iron levels back to normal and his pains cleared. The possibility of a vitamin or mineral deficiency might be worth checking.

Previous blood analysis has indicated that my iron levels are within expectations but I'll see if I can wangle a blood test...thanks for the tip.

However, MRI indicates "Mild degenerative change involving the right hip with superior joint space narrowing. Osseous bump present at the superolateral margin of the femoral head neck junction bilaterally raising the possibility of femoroacetabular impingement".......which, given my totally untutored but Googled understanding (if 'understanding' can indeed be applied to my almost total incomprehension of anatomy) means "It don't fit right".

 

[SteveNU]

I think they say about 90% of the time these back issues will resolve with conservative treatment of therapy, rest and medication. It's the other 10% that needs surgery or pain management.

Unfortunately I was in that 10% and I'm a little over 8 weeks post op from my L3-L4 spinal fusion surgery to correct excruciating hip and leg pain. So far so good. Mostly pain free now, just sore from trying to get the back and leg muscles back in shape. Moving pretty good but still can't do much bending, lifting or twisting. Try and walk a mile most days but there are days where it's still too much. Probably be another 6 - 12 months before I'm back to "normal".

I was having bilateral leg and foot pain for a few weeks during my recovery but they just sent me for an ultrasound of my legs to check for clots and gave me some meds to help. It eventually resolved itself with time.

The defining moment in my case was when I was finally able to get some x-rays and an MRI that clearly showed there were issues that no amount of therapy, rest or drugs could fix. It helps to eliminate the unknown.


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[d0ug]

"Mild degenerative change involving the right hip with superior joint space narrowing. Osseous bump present at the superolateral margin of the femoral head neck junction bilaterally raising the possibility of femoroacetabular impingement"[/I].......which, given my totally untutored but Googled understanding (if 'understanding' can indeed be applied to my almost total incomprehension of anatomy) means "It don't fit right".

You are describing a loss of cartilage in the joint. How much cartilage is there in beer and vegetables



While your laughing think how many farm animals have joint replacement, high blood pressure, diabetes and arthritis.

 

[Nemo2]

It helps to eliminate the unknown.

To quote Sherlock Holmes, "Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth."

It would appear that I'm another 10%er...one who is not quite through the deductive reasoning process yet.

Good luck with your recovery!

 

[REWahoo]

While your laughing think how many farm animals have joint replacement, high blood pressure, diabetes and arthritis.

I don't know any veterinarians who offer hip replacements for farm animals or who test farm animals for high blood pressure, diabetes or arthritis. Can you recommend one who does?

 

[d0ug]

Veterinarians help farmers prevent these problems using nutrition. A farmer would never put up with this medical malpractice on their animals. All these animals can have the same illnesses that people have but why is there a difference?

 

[MRG]

You are describing a loss of cartilage in the joint. How much cartilage is there in beer and vegetables



While your laughing think how many farm animals have joint replacement, high blood pressure, diabetes and arthritis.

Most of the farm animals around here have good but very short lives.

 

[eytonxav]

Maybe we all need to eat like the great tortoises, they seem to have excellent longevity.

 

[MichaelB]

In an attempt to get back on topic, with no medical education I would suspect that upright-walking humans have much different issues with back and hip wear than most quadrupeds, especially ungulates, which are the likely focus and experience base of most practicing US veterinarians.

 

[splitwdw]

Veterinarians help farmers prevent these problems using nutrition. A farmer would never put up with this medical malpractice on their animals. All these animals can have the same illnesses that people have but why is there a difference?

Not trying to be funny but maybe we eat the farm animals before they develop the diseases/health problems that humans see as they age or injure themselves. So farmers could be giving their animals supplements that are doing nothing. Again, I am not trying to make fun of d0ug's post, just wondering.

Look at the news about glucosamine this past year not working better than a placebo for human joint pain. Not positive but think this was first used in dogs for joint pain from arthritis. People are still swearing that it works for them, the power of the mind??
I see MRG and I are like minded.

 

[d0ug]

If you remember I told of my experience and I walk on two feet. I have seen personally many people who have done the same as me all without drugs and doctors.

 

[calmloki]

The new thing is Hyaluronic acid. A 75 YO golf nut suggested it to a 68YO golf nut I know - they both claim it works. I did my shoulder some damage and after a week ordered some of the Hyaluronic acid from Amazon. Have been taking 200mg twice/day and after three days feel less discomfort (of course now I'm two weeks from the injury). I don't really care if a what works is a placebo - long as I can lift my arm without squeaking!

 

[splitwdw]

The new thing is Hyaluronic acid. A 75 YO golf nut suggested it to a 68YO golf nut I know - they both claim it works. I did my shoulder some damage and after a week ordered some of the Hyaluronic acid from Amazon. Have been taking 200mg twice/day and after three days feel less discomfort (of course now I'm two weeks from the injury). I don't really care if a what works is a placebo - long as I can lift my arm without squeaking!

My elderly neighbor just had his daughter get him Wellesse joint juice from Costco and after 3 days he said it was working. I would think if it was working it would take longer to get into his system/joints. I don't say anything to him about my belief because if he thinks it's working then good for him.
Years ago, I can remember my great uncle visiting from Arizona and he was taking pectin in his juice in the morning. He said all the people in his retirement development were taking it for joint pain with great results.

 

[d0ug]

Wholistic health would say if you if you are missing something it would be a good idea to put it in the body. Like if my car is stopped because it is missing a bolt then I will put one in.
90% of arthritis is cartilage degeneration would it be sensible to put in what is missing?
Harvard did a study on chicken cartilage can be easily found searching chicken cartilage and arthritis in fact it was so successful that they have a use patent on chicken cartilage.
ChickenCartilage.com Rheumatoid arthritis Harvard Study

https://appliedhealth.com/cellrenew-collagen-type-ii/collagen-type-ii-cure-arthritis-heart-disease/
There is always a bias in studies and the retired editor for Lancet said that over 50% of studies were false.
When I see that a certain mineral, vitamin or supplement did not work. I would ask were they able to absorb it was their digestive system working right.
Finally no mineral, vitamin amino acid, or even supplement will work without co factors in simple term they cannot work along.