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Old 08-03-2009, 08:56 PM   #21
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Yay! So you agree that those most at risk should receive the vacine prior to those less at risk?
Whick would then lead, logically, to the conclusion that those in the highest risk age category should be among the first to receive the vaccine.
In addition, the higher priorities go as well to parents of very young children (who are too young for the vaccine), those with complications which would put people at greater risk and people in the health care industry.
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Old 08-04-2009, 02:08 AM   #22
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I think I read somewhere that those of us born prior to 1957 might have some degree of immunity to the H1N1 virus. I was born in 1954. In any case, when/if the vaccine becomes available I plan to get the flu shot.
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I heard the same thing on NPR. The person that was being interviewed indicated that the current guess was that some flu older people were exposed to when young was similar enough to H1N1 to give them some protection.
Sounds like good news for us geezers. I well remember the flu I had in 1957, was out sick from school for a full week. Also remember a flu at megacorp that I didn't get while the younger folks were dropping like flies; don't remember the year or if it was the same flu. The upside of aging.

I checked my facts, yes, it was 1957, the year and week the Milwaukee Braves won the World Series.

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http://www.globalsecurity.org/securi...demic-1957.htm
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I wonder if that is the one. 52 years ago, sounds just about right.
There is a benifit to kids being exposed to colds, and dirt, and bugs when young. I wonder if, in this age of disinfecting everything, we are raising kids that will have more issues later in life because their immune system wasn't strengthened when young?
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There is a benifit to kids being exposed to colds, and dirt, and bugs when young. I wonder if, in this age of disinfecting everything, we are raising kids that will have more issues later in life because their immune system wasn't strengthened when young?
What doesn't kill you...

Scientific American ran an article a few years ago about two approaches to immune systems. One approach builds up antibodies through gradual exposure to all the "childhood illnesses" and other dirty stuff. Remember when parents used to deliberately expose kids to chicken pox or measles so that they could "get it over with" on their schedule? This system appears to work great because its adult products are beneficiaries of its literal survivor bias.

The other approach is the body's hyper-allergic reaction to infection that it hasn't previously built up antibodies to. In most kids that takes the form of juvenile asthma. One concern about today's focus on "antibacterial" and "disinfectant" homes is that kids don't build up immunities and end up reacting with asthma. This phenomenon is very visible because asthma kills fewer kids.

"Antibacterial" and "disinfectant" are also misleading terms. The products wouldn't sell as well if they were advertised as "Kills most weak bacteria and germs while leaving the strong ones to grow & mutate without competition!"
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Well, I'm not 70 and I'm not getting the vaccine either. Can't be bothered, check the stats:

H1N1 deaths world wide: 1,466 2009 flu pandemic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Ordinary flu deaths USA: a helluva lot more Deaths from Flu - WrongDiagnosis.com
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