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Just a data point, but my Silverado half-ton is rated max towing at 4800lbs. Will allegedly tow more with towing package - i.e. tranny cooler, etc. I'd derate by 10% min.
Read my posts above regarding payload. The "tow rating" is marketing fluff and isn't a realistic indicator of what weight trailer you can attach to your truck, suv or car - unless you pull it with a tow chain that applies no weight to the tow vehicle....Just a data point, but my Silverado half-ton is rated max towing at 4800lbs. Will allegedly tow more with towing package - i.e. tranny cooler, etc. I'd derate by 10% min.
I foresee more exciting travel trailer and tow vehicle learning events by brewer.
Read my posts above regarding payload. The "tow rating" is marketing fluff and isn't a realistic indicator of what weight trailer you can attach to your truck, suv or car - unless you pull it with a tow chain that applies no weight to the tow vehicle....
REWahoo said:Read my posts above regarding payload. The "tow rating" is marketing fluff and isn't a realistic indicator of what weight trailer you can attach to your truck, suv or car - unless you pull it with a tow chain that applies no weight to the tow vehicle....
Does the the max payload capacity on the sticker inside your door say 1,100?Vehicle weighs ~5100, rating is ~6200, thus 1/2 ton... Probably want to keep hitch load under 500, which should allow 4800 trailer. Still, I'd derate by at least 10%...
REWahoo said:Does the the max payload capacity on the sticker inside your door say 1,100?
There should be another federally required placard inside the door - the "Tire and Loading Information" sticker. Take a look at the very small print right above the tire inflation chart and you should see a "combined weight of occupants and cargo should never exceed" payload limit for your vehicle. This info is on all cars and trucks sold in the US and has been for years - although I can't find when it became mandatory for mfgs. to include them.Actually, door sticker just mentions GVW, and per axle.
There should be another federally required placard inside the door - the "Tire and Loading Information" sticker. Take a look at the very small print right above the tire inflation chart and you should see a "combined weight of occupants and cargo should never exceed" payload limit for your vehicle. This info is on all cars and trucks sold in the US and has been for years - although I can't find when it became mandatory for mfgs. to include them.
You can see by the example below the payload info isn't prominently displayed, but it is there.
Guess the requirement to list payload was enacted after your truck was built. I googled up some NTSB info on the payload sticker dated 2001, but it was unclear whether that was a new requirement starting that year. Apparently so.
The "cargo weight rating" in the glove box picture isn't the same as the payload number, at least not on my truck - my payload number is exactly 750 lbs more than the sated cargo weight. Not sure if the relation between the two a fixed number, a percentage, or a totally separate calculation.
The bottom line to all of this is the only way to really know the weight status is to get the truck on some scales and subtract that weight from the published GVWR for the truck. That's what I did - and learned that with a fully loaded RV trailer, a full tank of fuel, me, the DW and her [-]bottomless[/-] purse, my truck weighed within 60 lbs of the 10,000 GVWR.
Heh, I just saw an entry on an RV forum where a RVer pulled his truck on the scales and discovered he was 2,500 lbs over his GVWR! He said it did seem to ride a little high in the front...
Heh, moved out west less than a week ago and already hankerin' for a bigger truck. You're gonna fit right in...Well, even the most optimistic payload rating on a half ton is only 550 pounds more than my minivan, so we may well be looking at something bigger.
You are correct that they do weigh more - but that extra weight is due in part to stronger frames, bigger axles, and beefed up suspension systems which enable them to carry more payload, not less. The Detroit Truck Wars pit Dodge, Ford and GM in an ongoing battle to outdo each other. Truck capacities have increased year after year, long ago rendering the 1/2 ton, 3/4 ton and 1 ton truck designations meaningless.However, when I park next to a new GMC with stated GVWR 6200 lb. (or Ford, Dodge, Tundra for that matter), my '95 model looks like a compact truck. I have to believe the new models weigh hundreds of pounds more than my '95 model, and, therefore, the true load capacity of the new models is less.
Heh, moved out west less than a week ago and already hankerin' for a bigger truck. You're gonna fit right in...
You're going to have to post "Greenwich Before" and "Denver After" photos...Eh, I already own a big hat and silver/turquoise belt buckle. The truck and guns just complete the set.