Enron Trial Verdict

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Just heard the jury has reached a verdict in the Ken Lay / Jeff Skilling Enron trial. Veridict will be read at 11:00 Central Time.

Guilty (verdict) or not?
 
They were in charge of the company for a number of years - no matter whether they knew it or not  :LOL:
they are guilty
 
I'm guessing a couple of charges to stick, the rest not guilty. These complex white collar cases usually confound jurors.
 
I'm saying guilty... but then I missed the OJ verdict...
 
Nice!

It was either find them guilty of the criminal charges, or guilty of massive stupidity while getting rich, which technically isnt a crime, but...

As part of the sentence, ever enron shareholder and every company employee should get to slap them each once across the face. :)
 
Cute Fuzzy Bunny said:
As part of the sentence, ever enron shareholder and every company employee should get to slap them each once across the face. :)

How about they let just 2-3 lucky shareholders each beat them half to death? ;)
 
Isnt that a joke?

Something about getting three wishes, only someone else thats not well liked gets twice as much. "Make me rich, make me beautiful, beat me half to death" ?
 
justin said:
How about they let just 2-3 lucky shareholders each beat them half to death?  ;)
I hear the tickets will be auctioned using Enron's advanced energy-trading system with its EBS bandwidth... the good news is that they'll apparently cost no money yet be worth millions!
 
As part of the sentence, ever enron shareholder and every company employee should get to slap them each once across the face.

That's a lot of people since it was in the sp 500 index. Do partial shares just get to do a "bitch slap" :bat:
 
No beating necessary. Just send them to a Federal Pound-Me-In-The-Ass Penitentiary.

Meet your new husband cell-mate.
 
...and I was just about to post a comment that we at least hadn't descended to juvenile "pound me in the ass" type jokes.... :'(

(Making fun of homosexual rape... how liberal and enlightened.....)

Ah well, different strokes for different folks.....
 
Oh, I should have put a few winky smileys in there...

...I wasn't being entirely serious! ;)
 
Yes, this is your new cell-mate, Mr. Lay.

Make your own joke.

Here's your other cell-mate, Mr. De-Lay.

Once, again, make your own joke.
 
Cute Fuzzy Bunny said:
Yes, this is your new cell-mate, Mr. Lay.

Make your own joke.

Here's your other cell-mate, Mr. De-Lay.

Once, again, make your own joke.

Add water; makes it's own sauce... :eek:
 
I read "The Smartest Guys in the Room" a few months ago and learned a good deal about Ken Lay and Jeff Skilling (Yes his brother is the weatherman on WGN in Chicago) and their antics. These were brillient men who lost track of what a dollar was worth and how hard-work, not schemes, are the backbone of our capitalistic society.

If they both die behind bars, it will not be unjust.
 
No beatings, no cell mates, no jail. Just restitution till they reach destitution ::)
 
COWABUNGA!

I got the news at work. By sheer accident, tuned in to Yahoo just seconds after it was posted. Everyone I polled loved it. (I didn't poll managers. :p )

I love it!
 
Looks like the California AG called it five years ago:
Nords said:
Here's what California Attorney General Bill Lockyer said at a press conference about Enron Corp. Chairman Kenneth Lay: "I would love to personally escort Lay to an 8-by-10 cell that he could share with a tattooed dude who says, 'Hi, my name is Spike, honey."'
 
Abu Grahib?  Guantanamo? Dog leash?  :D Here Kenny boy, here!
 
brewer12345 said:
No beating necessary.  Just send them to a Federal Pound-Me-In-The-Ass Penitentiary.

Meet your new husband cell-mate.

I fear that they'll end up in some Club Fed location that includes an adjacent golf course! :mad:
 
Austin_Explorer said:
I fear that they'll end up in some Club Fed location that includes an adjacent golf course!   :mad:

I tend to doubt it. In the wake of SOx and all the corporate malfeasance as Enron collapsed, federal sentencing guidelines for white-collar crime have been stiffened. I think these guys are going to the big house, not Club Fed. I also think they will probably die in jail (of old age). Check out what happened to the Rigas' in the Adelphia case.
 
Austin_Explorer said:
I fear that they'll end up in some Club Fed location that includes an adjacent golf course! :mad:

Non violent offenders go to minimum security or a farm unit (can't remember the real name for those). I've been inside quite a few minimum security institutions but other than seeing the farms I don't know what they're like other than what staff tells me. As for the minimum's - no golf, no exercise equipment, etc - in short, it ain't club fed. They did away with all of that some time back.

It's not booty bandit jail either. Sorry to crush everyone's homosexual jail rape visions.

I've been in the booty bandit joints - my favorite had the nickname Thunderdome (two men enter, one man leaves!) - and there is no comparison to the fed on that aspect. In other words, the lights out at night punishment aspect will be missing for Ken, Jeff and the like.

The farms offer a little nicer experience, but the minimums are most definitely prisons. Even after spending a just a few hours in them as a visitor I was happy as hell getting buzzed through the door on the way out. I always said that one hour spent there was 59 minutes and 59 seconds more than I ever wanted to do.

The real punishment, beside just being not free, is the fact that if they get hit with a big piece of the maximum time their crimes make them eligible for, they will most likely die there. Once you're in the fed system you find they are very different than the states are about handing out time off for good behavior. You get some time off for that and a little more if you take rehabilitation programs (drug/alcohol abuse, anger management, etc.) but it's a small percentage of the time you owe.

I just remembered, there are some with nearby golf courses (usually where prisons and military bases coincide on the same piece of land) and one of the work details the BOP had was to cut grass and do some of the landscaping at the base golf course.
 
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