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Onward 12-15-2010 08:48 PM

Office walls are closing in
 
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Businesses used to provide 500 to 700 square feet of work space per employee, but the average is down to 200 square feet and shrinking.
Commercial real estate: Office walls are closing in on corporate workers - latimes.com

And from the article, here are some chipper employees contemplating this new trend:

http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2010-12/58271666.jpg

M Paquette 12-15-2010 10:33 PM

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Cubicles will be laid out in a manner meant to encourage collaboration, and there will be more "teaming" rooms, like small conference rooms, where small groups can work together.
I've seen this drill in a software/hardware development environment. It doesn't end well...

As in "The fire marshal is shutting us down."

CyclingInvestor 12-16-2010 02:36 AM

This was the final trigger for my 2006 retirement (from programming). As part of the switch to Xtreme Programming, we all lost our offices and got low-walled cubicles plus a lot of meeting rooms.

brewer12345 12-16-2010 05:44 AM

I have gone from my own office (with a door that actually coses) in 2005 to a "hospital gown" cube (open from the back) today. For all that, I am considered lucky because I am near a window. I have been to many locations other teams at my organization dwell, and they are routinely way interior and not infrequently in the basement. The worst is a team in the sub-basement.

yakers 12-16-2010 06:25 AM

Dilbert lives!

Purron 12-16-2010 06:34 AM

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Age makes a difference, workplace experts say. Baby boomers longed for a corner office and expected to separate their work lives from their home lives.

"Younger workers' lives are all integrated, not segregated," Rivard said. "They have learned to work anywhere at a kitchen table or wherever." Many don't feel a need to spend time in company quarters.
I don't know I'd want to be so "integrated". Plus, the concept of a "teaming room" is downright scary. How can you possibly surf the internet and play mindsweeper in such an environment? Guess I'm a typical baby boomer.

haha 12-16-2010 09:57 AM

Much government work may be different, almost surely is, but today's corporate workers are really never "off" in any sense that makes sense to me. Might be if they are in a jungle in Borneo.

Ha

ziggy29 12-16-2010 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by haha (Post 1013041)
today's corporate workers are really never "off" in any sense that makes sense to me.

About the only way many of us can be fully "off" and 100% disengaged and disconnected is to be unreachable by e-mail or cell phone. One would have to travel to a place with no Internet and no cell phone coverage to be totally "off call." (And even then, it only means that when you return you will be swamped with stuff to catch up on.)

And in an era of very high unemployment, people feel pressured to deal with work situations 24/7/365 as they arise -- because if they don't, someone without a job may be more than willing to do so.

Corporations love to exploit high unemployment. It gives them a huge amount of leverage over its workers and allows them to demand more and compensate less.

Onward 12-16-2010 10:15 AM

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ls99 12-16-2010 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by brewer12345 (Post 1012971)
I have been to many locations other teams at my organization dwell, and they are routinely way interior and not infrequently in the basement. The worst is a team in the sub-basement.

To improve morale, they could always run an endless film loop, oops a bit dated technology, say a DVD output on large screen, showing a street scene from the 50th floor of some high rise.

That way they would see the same taxi for example go past at 4PM, everyone would know it is time to get ready to go, to happy hour of course!

Khan 12-16-2010 10:38 AM

They usually kept the computer folks in the basement.

ziggy29 12-16-2010 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ls99 (Post 1013057)
To improve morale, they could always run an endless film loop, oops a bit dated technology, say a DVD output on large screen, showing a street scene from the 50th floor of some high rise.

21st Century corporate "motivation" is best illustrated by a motivational poster of an unemployed guy selling pencils on a street corner, with the caption "Just be thankful this isn't you. Now get back to work."

Nords 12-16-2010 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Onward (Post 1012903)
Businesses used to provide 500 to 700 square feet of work space per employee, but the average is down to 200 square feet and shrinking.

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Originally Posted by ziggy29 (Post 1013062)
21st Century corporate "motivation" is best illustrated by a motivational poster of an unemployed guy selling pencils on a street corner, with the caption "Just be thankful this isn't you. Now get back to work."

200 square feet?!?

Why, Gumby, M_Paquette, and I used to have workspaces that were less than 200 cubic feet.

Our sleeping spaces were about a third of that volume, too.

As for taking a shower, stand with your feet at shoulder width. Now move each foot about 4" outward. Put your fists together at chest level and move them about 6" outward. There-- you've just braced your feet and both elbows against the shower bulkheads in case of any submarine rocking & rolling while you're trying to shampoo your hair...

harley 12-16-2010 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by brewer12345 (Post 1012971)
I have gone from my own office (with a door that actually coses) in 2005 to a "hospital gown" cube (open from the back) today. For all that, I am considered lucky because I am near a window. I have been to many locations other teams at my organization dwell, and they are routinely way interior and not infrequently in the basement. The worst is a team in the sub-basement.

At least you get to see the squirrels, and they are married...

M Paquette 12-16-2010 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Nords (Post 1013116)
200 square feet?!?

Why, Gumby, M_Paquette, and I used to have workspaces that were less than 200 cubic feet.

This did wonders for management oversight. We had annual inspections of our work spaces, procedures, and methodology to verify that we all were following proper procedures. During one of these ORSE inspections, a lieutenant commander looked at the scheduled maintenance coming up, and asked to see how we did an inspection of the #2 400 cycle motor-generator set. Okie dokie. (FYI - 637 class boat) I zipped through the usual setup procedure, getting the OOD permissions and taking the gear out of service, then got the tools listed on the inspection sheet into a canvas bag. Then, I put on a forehead-mounted 'miner's lamp'. The inspector stared at that non-regulation gear, and made notes.

Now that I was ready, I told him we were ready to inspect the machine, and asked him to follow me. I headed aft, climbed up onto the workbench mounted inboard of the starboard turbine generator, swung my left leg onto a brace over the port generator, reached between the main steam lines to a stanchion, and did a sort of chin-up while turning sideways into the gap between the steam lines, where I rolled onto the lagging over the port line. I tucked my feet up and port, and inquired of the inspecting officer if he would care to join me, as there was a bit of space atop the starboard main steam line (with an unlagged line that ran over to an eductor - OUCH! - but I neglected to mention that...).

For some reason the inspector was content to observe the soles of my shoes as I called out each action on the maintenance sheet. I did mention afterward that I had filed a recommendation to add that headlamp to the ship's supplies and maintenance sheet.

Oh, YOU had a CUBICLE! I had to make do with... :rofl:

travelover 12-16-2010 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Khan (Post 1013060)
They usually kept the computer folks in the basement.

This reminds me of when I hired into MegaMotors in the early 80's. Our entire division was in one 4 story building. Product planning was on the top floor. The financial area was on the 3rd floor. Engineering was on the 1st and 2nd floors. Reliability and warranty analysis was in the basement which was totally windowless. The rest is history. :laugh:

Automatika 12-16-2010 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Nords (Post 1013116)
200 square feet?!?

Why, Gumby, M_Paquette, and I used to have workspaces that were less than 200 cubic feet.

Our sleeping spaces were about a third of that volume, too.

As for taking a shower, stand with your feet at shoulder width. Now move each foot about 4" outward. Put your fists together at chest level and move them about 6" outward. There-- you've just braced your feet and both elbows against the shower bulkheads in case of any submarine rocking & rolling while you're trying to shampoo your hair...

Showers?? In the Air Force we had maybe 16 cubic feet and a chair in our cockpits and had to wear a glass bowl on our head.

REWahoo 12-16-2010 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Automatika (Post 1013142)
Showers?? In the Air Force we had maybe 16 cubic feet and a chair in our cockpits and had to wear a glass bowl on our head.

Oh, I used to dream of having a chair and a glass bowl...YouTube - Monty Python - Four Yorkshiremen

ls99 12-16-2010 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Automatika (Post 1013142)
Showers?? In the Air Force we had maybe 16 cubic feet and a chair in our cockpits and had to wear a glass bowl on our head.

Shoulda been a transport pilot.

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Purron 12-16-2010 03:07 PM

For some unknown reason, this old comedy routine just popped into my head;)

YouTube - Grumpy Old Man


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