Interest Rates on the Move! (Finally)

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Experts think the Fed will continue to raise rates several times the next year or so.

Good for savers... bad for debtors.

I just took out a "variable CD" which will increase [or decrease] with the Fed Funds Rate but never go below the floor rate. For my five year CD, the floor rate is 3%.

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Where did you find this product? Navy Federal has something kind of similar but shorter term and the rate floor is 50 BP under the starting rate.
 
Where did you find this product? Navy Federal has something kind of similar but shorter term and the rate floor is 50 BP under the starting rate.


The regional bank is First Guaranty Bank and it has a branch in my Texas hometown near Dallas. I already have a checking account and other CDs there and I love their personalized service. But this is a brand new CD product the bank just started offering. See link below.

Variable CD

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The regional bank is First Guaranty Bank and it has a branch in my Texas hometown near Dallas. I already have a checking account and other CDs there and I love their personalized service. But this is a brand new CD product the bank just started offering. See link below.

Variable CD

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Interesting. What is the early withdrawal penalty on the 5 year?
 
Fed funds rate is now 2.25%. Another 0.25% is generally expected in Dec.
 
.25 today... one more in December, three in 2019 and one more in 2020.
 
.25 today... one more in December, three in 2019 and one more in 2020.

That is the view today. I don't think that's what will play out in the end...but I certainly will not complain if it does.
 
Probably the main reason long rates dropped some (but not down to the yields of a couple of weeks ago) was that the Fed Chair implied they might be slightly more aggressive at raising short-term rates. Certainly didn’t indicate a slowing down in spite of removing the “accommodative” language.
 
another rise in December is very likely ,

but i suggest waiting and re-assessing after that

there is plenty of potential for sudden changes ( bigger rises , pauses or even cuts )
 
*** removing “accommodative” language. ***

means tightening credit to me , but maybe i am looking at the wrong dictionary
 
Probably the main reason long rates dropped some (but not down to the yields of a couple of weeks ago) was that the Fed Chair implied they might be slightly more aggressive at raising short-term rates. Certainly didn’t indicate a slowing down in spite of removing the “accommodative” language.

I wouldn't have guessed that my intermediate investment grade bond fund would advance today (VFIDX up 0.21%) and my short term investment grade fund would be flat (VFSUX).

Fun to watch the gyrations but I don't bet on my knowledge of the future.
 
*** removing “accommodative” language. ***

means tightening credit to me , but maybe i am looking at the wrong dictionary

Some folks initially interpreted the removal of the term “accommodative” to indicate that the Fed was closer to done raising rates than had been thought. This initially cheered the market.

Then during the press conference, long yields dropped more. Guess the Fed indicated they weren’t close to done after all.
 
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10 year Treasuries yields are up today ..
 
It's a REALLY big move today. These are past some key support (in terms of price) levels:

30 year not only passed 3.25%, it moved above 3.3%!
10 year finally moved above 3.1% - to 3.16%!
5 year moved above 3%!!!

New yield highs for the year, and since 2011 on the 10 year and 2014 on the 30 year.
 
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I think that most of us stand to lose more capital in bonds, stocks and real estate than we might gain with higher interest rates. That depends of course on many things, not least of which is how long or short term our fixed investments are. I have been wary of duration for at least a year but even so I will suffer an immediate loss in the reactions to interest rate increases.

One issue that has become clear is that markets expect higher mortgage rates are coming, and that this will cut home building, hence demand for lumber and OSB, which should cut demand for timber. The formerly very hot local real estate and rental markets are cooling off too. I can see 4 active cranes looking out my window. I wonder if any of these cranes will stop working before finishing their projects? In 2008 I was in a less urban neighborhood, but plenty cranes were idled in Seattle that time.

BTW, what rough % of the new housing in your area is sided with sawn timber like lap siding or vertical tongue and groove or shingles? These are becoming flat out rare around here, even in $1+ million dollar homes. Fiber cement board everywhere. The big timber companies like Weyerhaeuser have traded down lately.

Likewise disappearing where I am are common bricks. Beautiful, but I guess just too expensive installed, other than used as accent panels or sections If anyone understands about this I'd like to hear from you.

Ha
 
I think that most of us stand to lose more capital in bonds, stocks and real estate than we might gain with higher interest rates. That depends of course on many things, not least of which is how long or short term our fixed investments are. I have been wary of duration for at least a year but even so I will suffer an immediate loss in the reactions to interest rate increases.

One issue that has become clear is that markets expect higher mortgage rates are coming, and that this will cut home building, hence demand for lumber and OSB, which should cut demand for timber. The formerly very hot local real estate and rental markets are cooling off too. I can see 4 active cranes looking out my window. I wonder if any of these cranes will stop working before finishing their projects? In 2008 I was in a less urban neighborhood, but plenty cranes were idled in Seattle that time.

BTW, what rough % of the new housing in your area is sided with sawn timber like lap siding or vertical tongue and groove or shingles? These are becoming flat out rare around here, even in $1+ million dollar homes. Fiber cement board everywhere. The big timber companies like Weyerhaeuser have traded down lately.

Likewise disappearing where I am are common bricks. Beautiful, but I guess just too expensive installed, other than used as accent panels or sections If anyone understands about this I'd like to hear from you.

Ha
A lot of things that were inflated by low rates over the past 6 years: building materials, housing, corporate buybacks, stocks, and so on, are going to deflate somewhat.

BTW when I was in Seattle six weeks ago there was a crane strike.....

But there were cranes everywhere!
 
Well, I had been waiting for the September rate hike to rebalance BIV, which then briefly went up, then into the crapper...
 
The rate hikes haven’t really been moving things much at the long end. It’s the strong employment data that has finally forced a move.

OK, 10 year just hit 3.2%!
 
The rate hikes haven’t really been moving things much at the long end. It’s the strong employment data that has finally forced a move.

OK, 10 year just hit 3.2%!

Yep. While the equity markets are selling off today, I don't see the 10 year going up as a bad thing. Now, if it keeps rocketing up every day then...
 
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