HarveyS
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"like a good neighbor....."
Going through this right now. My wife and I flew to Dallas from Florida to adopt a golden doodle puppy in August. The cost to put a pet on a plane unless it fits under the seat in front of you, you are active military or is a service dog is extremely expensive -- for our 27 pound puppy it was close to $2,000 to be placed in the cargo hold. So we rented a car from Hertz and headed east.
Around 8:00 at night outside of Mobile the small suv we were driving was reared-ended by a ford F-350 going 45+ mph. We were slowly down for stopped traffic in front of us. The rear 3rd of the car was collapsed into the second seat and the car was totaled. Due to the pain in my neck radiating down my arm and lower back pain and spasms, I was transported to a hospital in Mobile. Spent most of the night and was discharged with whiplash and soft tissue injuries, not fractures. Over the last two months I've had 4 lower spine injections x2, taking tramadol and flexeril regularly. I'm just beginning to feel better and turn the corner.
Immediately, called my state farm agent and reported the accident. Police report states accident was the fault of the other driver. My agents says, nothing to worry about, you have great coverage -- he files the claim. A few days later a claim adjuster from state farm tells me I'm not covered under PIP. I immediately call my agent, he says that's bullshit and calls the claim adjuster. Two days later, my agent calls me back and says your not covered under PIP. He says (1) because the accident occurred outside of my home state and (2) I was in a rental car for the purpose of pleasure (not because my vehicle had mechanical problems/was being repaired). There's some fine print he was not aware of. I'm not covered. He said I could file for pain and suffering through state farm.
This has been a nightmare, too many moving parts... Medicare is rejecting the claims due to it being the result of an accident, State Farm is saying we don't have to pay. My secondary insurance is denying payment. So, I hired a personal injury attorney. The medical bills are beginning to come in -- medical expenses are more than $35,000.
The other piece that complicated this entire situation is I've had several cervical and lumbar fusions over the last 20 years. My last spine surgery was 2+1/2 years ago to enlarge the nerve openings and remove some bone fragments. I have not needed any treatment or physical therapy since then. I was able to play golf twice a week, get on the treadmill everyday... have an active life. There's been not golf, boating/fishing, limited treadmill time.
It will be interested to see how this all plays out.
Hopefully you put the claim in immediately with your umbrella insurance company. I know you have the same company as your auto policy, but you still have to notify the umbrella policy division right away or they can deny the claim.
Ask me how I know.
I was in the insurance industry for 40 years and never heard of this. If it were different companies, then you would need to contact both, but with same company, that seems strange. Learn something new every day. Would be interested in knowing details if you care to share.
There is likely a claims rep at your insurance company that is doing most of the leg work and knows the most about what is really taking place. You may be able to speak with them.
The attorney hired by the insurance company represents you and will act in your best interest.
Going through this right now. My wife and I flew to Dallas from Florida to adopt a golden doodle puppy in August. The cost to put a pet on a plane unless it fits under the seat in front of you, you are active military or is a service dog is extremely expensive -- for our 27 pound puppy it was close to $2,000 to be placed in the cargo hold. So we rented a car from Hertz and headed east.
Around 8:00 at night outside of Mobile the small suv we were driving was reared-ended by a ford F-350 going 45+ mph. We were slowly down for stopped traffic in front of us. The rear 3rd of the car was collapsed into the second seat and the car was totaled. Due to the pain in my neck radiating down my arm and lower back pain and spasms, I was transported to a hospital in Mobile. Spent most of the night and was discharged with whiplash and soft tissue injuries, not fractures. Over the last two months I've had 4 lower spine injections x2, taking tramadol and flexeril regularly. I'm just beginning to feel better and turn the corner.
Immediately, called my state farm agent and reported the accident. Police report states accident was the fault of the other driver. My agents says, nothing to worry about, you have great coverage -- he files the claim. A few days later a claim adjuster from state farm tells me I'm not covered under PIP. I immediately call my agent, he says that's bullshit and calls the claim adjuster. Two days later, my agent calls me back and says your not covered under PIP. He says (1) because the accident occurred outside of my home state and (2) I was in a rental car for the purpose of pleasure (not because my vehicle had mechanical problems/was being repaired). There's some fine print he was not aware of. I'm not covered. He said I could file for pain and suffering through state farm.
This has been a nightmare, too many moving parts... Medicare is rejecting the claims due to it being the result of an accident, State Farm is saying we don't have to pay. My secondary insurance is denying payment. So, I hired a personal injury attorney. The medical bills are beginning to come in -- medical expenses are more than $35,000.
The other piece that complicated this entire situation is I've had several cervical and lumbar fusions over the last 20 years. My last spine surgery was 2+1/2 years ago to enlarge the nerve openings and remove some bone fragments. I have not needed any treatment or physical therapy since then. I was able to play golf twice a week, get on the treadmill everyday... have an active life. There's been not golf, boating/fishing, limited treadmill time.
It will be interested to see how this all plays out.
Hypothetically speaking: Let's say you were in an auto accident that turned out to be your fault. Police arrived; the other driver was taken away in an ambulance but was conscious and not bleeding or with obvious issues. No tickets were issued.
2.5 years later; you're served with a summons that you're being sued for pain and suffering. Your auto insurance company's attorney is representing you; you also have an Umbrella policy with the same company.
I know the attorney is really representing the insurance company, do I need my own attorney? Are these types of lawsuits common? What's the typical outcome? If my coverage levels aren't enough to cover the final judgement; can my IRA accounts be taken?
Hypothetically speaking; never been sued before so am a bit anxious.
Thanks, team.
Hypothetically speaking. I could have been the injured party!
Several years ago I attended a presentation by a retired judge in Michigan that was given during a course for a concealed carry license. He explained that if you shot someone in your home, you may be clear of criminal charges, but NOT civil charges. And if you have an umbrella insurance policy, you're a lawyer's dream.
I'm not advocating against those policies, it was just a surprise how the retired judge viewed them.
Our State Farm homeowners and umbrella policies specifically exclude any intentionally caused damages, that seems common in many/most states.
So if you accidentally shoot someone in your house, that's covered. But if you intentionally shoot someone in the house who is trying to murder your wife, you pay the bill.
Our State Farm homeowners and umbrella policies specifically exclude any intentionally caused damages, that seems common in many/most states.
So if you accidentally shoot someone in your house, that's covered. But if you intentionally shoot someone in the house who is trying to murder your wife, you pay the bill.
I'm skeptical since my umbrella insurance has the (paraphrasing) "except in defense of yourself or others" language concerning the willful use of a firearm.
Our State Farm homeowners and umbrella policies specifically exclude any intentionally caused damages, that seems common in many/most states.
So if you accidentally shoot someone in your house, that's covered. But if you intentionally shoot someone in the house who is trying to murder your wife, you pay the bill.
All seems a bit strange, though I would think it would be decided AFTER adjudication. IOW were you "justified." Apparently, that's not a consideration. Again. Strange. But YMMV.