Katsmeow
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Following up on a previous thread, we are setting aside part of our portfolio in cash and short term funds in order to fund some high expenses during the next 3 years. To do this, we will be selling and living off of during 2014 our taxable portfolio which was where we had our international equities.
So, for the remaining portfolio - that is the tax deferred portfolio that is not being set aside I want to find the best way to add in international.
Our desired portfolio asset allocation is 55/45. Once I sell of the taxable portfolio we will be just a little over that in the resulting portfolio.
Before I sell off the VTIAX in the taxable account I want to rebalance what will be left in the resulting tax deferred portfolio (i.e. our now total portfolio minus what we set aside), including ending up with about 15% of our equities in international. I am uncertain how to best do this given the available options.
What we have in the resulting portfolio (again, this does not occur what we are setting aside):
DH's IRA
Wellesley - VWIAX - ER-.18 - 14.9% of Portfolio
Vanguard High-Yield Corporate - VWEHX - ER .14 - 6.4%
Vanguard Short-Term Investment Grade - VFSUX - ER .16 - 10.6%
Vanguard Extended Market - VEXAX - ER .14 - 14.5%
PenFed 5Yr CD 0 - 14.4% (this is in process, we are selling our Total Bond Market and putting it in the PenFed 5 year 3% CD)
My 401k
Dreyfus S&P 500 - PEOPX - ER .51 - 39.2%
Our preference is to draw from DH's IRA before drawing from my 401k. He will be hitting 70 several years before I do. DH is 66 now.
My 401k doesn't have great choices in it. I prefer to keep it as a 401k for a few years.
There are a couple of International choices in it, but I don't like the ER on them. There is also a stable value fund and a Strategic income fund, if I wanted to put some of our fixed income in my 401k.
Relevant choices in my 401k:
FA INTL DISCOVERY T FTADX ER 1.59
OPPHMR DEV MKTS N ODVNX ER 1.56
FA STABLE VALUE ER 0.91 - current yield is .84%
FA High Income FHITX ER 1.05
FA Strat Income FSIAX ER 0.98
Comments on the funds we have and how I feel about changing them:
Wellesley - This has done very well for us and I prefer to keep it in the portfolio. That said, I wouldn't be averse to selling 20 or 30% of it to achieve the other goals that I have. On the other hand, I'm fine with keeping it as well.
Vanguard High-Yield - I am fairly neutral about this. I would ideally like to keep it at about 5% of the total portfolio. That said, now that there is an International Bond fund I've thought about selling part of this and putting it in the international bond fund.
Vanguard Short-Term Investment Grade - I don't particularly want to change this except to a minor amount. Again, I've thought about putting something in the international bond fund. But, if it was better to put some of 401k into the Strategic Income Fund (for example) then I could that and then I could sell from here to buy the Vanguard International Fund in the IRA.
Vanguard Extended Market - I have this to try to help to approximate the Total Stock Market fund given that my 401k is in an S&P 500 fund (with no choice for any other index fund). This is the obvious place where I could sell about half of this to buy international. But, not sure whether to do this or to keep it given that I have so much in the S&P 500 fund in my 401k. But one option is just to keep my 401k as is and sell part of this to buy the International Fund.
PenFed CD - This is in progress at the moment - Plan to keep this in PenFed CD replacing the Total Bond Fund.
Dreyfus S&P 500 Fund - The only index fund in my 401k and it has lowest ER. I have considered the possibility of putting some of this in the Strategic Income Fund and then taking part of my fixed income at Vanguard and putting it in the Vanguard total international. The strategic income fund has an ER of .98 which is one of the lower options in my 401k. Alternatively, I could sell some of the S&P 500 fund and buy FTADX or ODVNX (or both) but they have ERs of 1.59 and 1.56 respectively so that isn't appealing to me.
The basic question comes down to whether I keep all the S&P 500 fund and sell some of VEXAX in DH's IRA to buy international or whether I move some of the S&P 500 fund to fixed income so I can buy international in DH's IRA without selling VEXAX or whether I just buy international in my 401k.
So, for the remaining portfolio - that is the tax deferred portfolio that is not being set aside I want to find the best way to add in international.
Our desired portfolio asset allocation is 55/45. Once I sell of the taxable portfolio we will be just a little over that in the resulting portfolio.
Before I sell off the VTIAX in the taxable account I want to rebalance what will be left in the resulting tax deferred portfolio (i.e. our now total portfolio minus what we set aside), including ending up with about 15% of our equities in international. I am uncertain how to best do this given the available options.
What we have in the resulting portfolio (again, this does not occur what we are setting aside):
DH's IRA
Wellesley - VWIAX - ER-.18 - 14.9% of Portfolio
Vanguard High-Yield Corporate - VWEHX - ER .14 - 6.4%
Vanguard Short-Term Investment Grade - VFSUX - ER .16 - 10.6%
Vanguard Extended Market - VEXAX - ER .14 - 14.5%
PenFed 5Yr CD 0 - 14.4% (this is in process, we are selling our Total Bond Market and putting it in the PenFed 5 year 3% CD)
My 401k
Dreyfus S&P 500 - PEOPX - ER .51 - 39.2%
Our preference is to draw from DH's IRA before drawing from my 401k. He will be hitting 70 several years before I do. DH is 66 now.
My 401k doesn't have great choices in it. I prefer to keep it as a 401k for a few years.
There are a couple of International choices in it, but I don't like the ER on them. There is also a stable value fund and a Strategic income fund, if I wanted to put some of our fixed income in my 401k.
Relevant choices in my 401k:
FA INTL DISCOVERY T FTADX ER 1.59
OPPHMR DEV MKTS N ODVNX ER 1.56
FA STABLE VALUE ER 0.91 - current yield is .84%
FA High Income FHITX ER 1.05
FA Strat Income FSIAX ER 0.98
Comments on the funds we have and how I feel about changing them:
Wellesley - This has done very well for us and I prefer to keep it in the portfolio. That said, I wouldn't be averse to selling 20 or 30% of it to achieve the other goals that I have. On the other hand, I'm fine with keeping it as well.
Vanguard High-Yield - I am fairly neutral about this. I would ideally like to keep it at about 5% of the total portfolio. That said, now that there is an International Bond fund I've thought about selling part of this and putting it in the international bond fund.
Vanguard Short-Term Investment Grade - I don't particularly want to change this except to a minor amount. Again, I've thought about putting something in the international bond fund. But, if it was better to put some of 401k into the Strategic Income Fund (for example) then I could that and then I could sell from here to buy the Vanguard International Fund in the IRA.
Vanguard Extended Market - I have this to try to help to approximate the Total Stock Market fund given that my 401k is in an S&P 500 fund (with no choice for any other index fund). This is the obvious place where I could sell about half of this to buy international. But, not sure whether to do this or to keep it given that I have so much in the S&P 500 fund in my 401k. But one option is just to keep my 401k as is and sell part of this to buy the International Fund.
PenFed CD - This is in progress at the moment - Plan to keep this in PenFed CD replacing the Total Bond Fund.
Dreyfus S&P 500 Fund - The only index fund in my 401k and it has lowest ER. I have considered the possibility of putting some of this in the Strategic Income Fund and then taking part of my fixed income at Vanguard and putting it in the Vanguard total international. The strategic income fund has an ER of .98 which is one of the lower options in my 401k. Alternatively, I could sell some of the S&P 500 fund and buy FTADX or ODVNX (or both) but they have ERs of 1.59 and 1.56 respectively so that isn't appealing to me.
The basic question comes down to whether I keep all the S&P 500 fund and sell some of VEXAX in DH's IRA to buy international or whether I move some of the S&P 500 fund to fixed income so I can buy international in DH's IRA without selling VEXAX or whether I just buy international in my 401k.