$66K+ is the average price for a pickup truck! Who buys these things? Rhinestone Cowboys and dilettante trade workers?
- In the non-luxury market, pickup trucks fueled the price increase. In April, full-size pickups averaged $66,631, up 2.8% from the same time last year. Unlike the overall market, pickup prices are also higher compared to 2023.
And that's with premium fuel to add to the fuel costs.^^^^^
Sure beats the 12 to 13mpg I'm getting out of my truck on the highway.
That's true too! But I knew that when I bought it. But hey it's got a 33 gallon tank, so I can still get ~400 miles between fill ups. I'm actually lucky since most of my driving is on the highways. Folks that have trucks like mine that drive primarily in city traffic are reporting they are only getting 9 to 10 mpg, sometimes even less.And that's with premium fuel to add to the fuel costs.
Hyundai and Kia have longer "bumper-to-bumper" warranties than most other car makers... something to consider. I think they did it because when they entered the US there was skeptism about a Korean car maker and the longer warranty helped mitigate that concern. We've had a Hyundai Sonata and a Kia Forte over the years and they e both been good cars.A good warranty is a great selling point especially with today’s high cost of repairs in many areas.
The Newport Beach CA wealthy haven't gotten the word, spent a week there with my pickup truck and felt like I was the only one on the road in a pickup except for a few work trucks. They do like their Tesla's out there, seemed like 25% of the vehicles on the road were Tesla's.I’ve read most millionaires drive pickup trucks. Most drive them for decades until they have at least 250K miles on them.
Best trick I ever learned was to walk out of the show room when they don't meet your price. If they don't tackle you by the time you reach the door, they've probably given you their lowest price and you should look elsewhere. Alternately, they'll call you and likely meet your (reasonable) price.I paid cash for a 1 year-old Toyota that's now 21 years old. Repairs are finally starting to get serious. Watching this thread. I have no idea how to buy a new car without getting fleeced.
In the current world of MSRP + pricing for desirable models, that approach will only result in trips to many different dealers!Best trick I ever learned was to walk out of the show room when they don't meet your price. If they don't tackle you by the time you reach the door, they've probably given you their lowest price and you should look elsewhere. Alternately, they'll call you and likely meet your (reasonable) price.
When they say "I'll have to check with the sales manager," get up and say "Call me if he meets my price" as you walk toward the front door.
Well, you do have to be practical and do your research on what cars sell for in your area. You can't "low ball" the dealer on a hot car model and expect any response. Also, visiting several dealers IS a way to end up with a lower price if you're willing to do the slog.In the current world of MSRP + pricing for desirable models, that approach will only result in trips to many different dealers!
I bought my new Bolt online and negotiated the price and terms. The only visit to the dealer was to pick it up. When was the last time you bought a new car? (If I remember correctly, you have an older Buick?)Well, you do have to be practical and do your research on what cars sell for in your area. You can't "low ball" the dealer on a hot car model and expect any response. Also, visiting several dealers IS a way to end up with a lower price if you're willing to do the slog.
Bingo, that's the way I've been buying my new cars for the past 6 or 7 years. As ya'll know, I buy a new car every 12 to 18mos and everyone of them has been found on-line and terms negotiated on-line. Extends my range of dealers to find what I want and it works really well to quickly know what is a fair price and to force the dealers to be competitive.I bought my new Bolt online and negotiated the price and terms. The only visit to the dealer was to pick it up. When was the last time you bought a new car?
Many folks these days (and here) do online research, send out requests for quotes to several dealers, negotiate via email, and then pick a dealer. .
Heh, heh, last car I bought new was 1991!I bought my new Bolt online and negotiated the price and terms. The only visit to the dealer was to pick it up. When was the last time you bought a new car? (If I remember correctly, you have an older Buick?)
Many folks these days (and here) do online research, send out requests for quotes to several dealers, negotiate via email, and then pick a dealer. Or if you want a used car, you can use Carmax, Carvana, etc and do the same online research and selection. Going to dealers is so 1999.
I have to agree about the comfort issue. That's what drew me to the old Buick. It's a true dinosaur of a car, but I've driven it 1000 miles (stopping for gas) with near complete comfort. I've never owned a car so comfortable. YMMVI have several criteria and the #1 priority is comfort.
Take a long time to sit in the car. We have test driven several cars that were perplexingly awful. The Rav4 was terrible, we both felt abused after a 45 minute test drive.
Mazda used to be OK, but the CX5 was a non-starter, literally.
My old pickup with newer seats is better than the 2019 Tiguan for a full day of driving. We don't drive it for the comfort, but it is tops for us. It does get 20+ MPG as a bare truck and varying MPG based on the trailer. Yesterday I got ~17 towing a 3000 pound tractor on a 4000 pound trailer.
I have several criteria too.I have several criteria and the #1 priority is comfort.
i've always been conscious of the fuel footprint, and the diesel truck with 700 ft/lb of torque makes me smile.I have several criteria too.
"It was" (In order)
Performance
Performance
Performance
Gadgets
Styling
Comfort
These days it's (In order)
Performance
Comfort
Gadgets
Styling
Things like gas mileage never entered the equation.
My factory ordered F150 Lariat had an MSRP of $54,385 back in December, 2015, so that sounds about right.This blows my mind:
$66K+ is the average price for a pickup truck! Who buys these things? Rhinestone Cowboys and dilettante trade workers?
Don't forget the diamond plated wheels.My factory ordered F150 Lariat had an MSRP of $54,385 back in December, 2015, so that sounds about right.
I'll likely buy a higher trim level as its replacement in a few years, the model with a hot tub in the back.
Could run $80k, depending...
My F-150 3.5l Ecoboost gets consistent 20 mpg on the highway.^^^^^
Sure beats the 12 to 13mpg I'm getting out of my truck on the highway.
My F-150 3.5l Ecoboost gets consistent 20 mpg on the highway.
Get one of them...
76" tall, 4wd, 700 ft pounds, turbo intercooled. 6700 pounds empty. Check! 15000 towing capacity, check!No thank you. As I said, gas mileage never enters into the equation when I'm buying a new vehicle. With a 6.2l blown engine, powering an AWD 3+ ton truck, that's almost 7 feet tall, you better not be expecting good gas mileage.