Circum-Coastal Amtrak Border Ride?

<1. The trains have been surprisingly comfortable, clean and on-time.>

Ah, but just wait until you are on the Coast Starlight. It leaves on time from Seattle but after that.....

Are you planning Chi-Sea or the Chi-Pdx route?
 
Any reason for the C S and it's tardy behaviour?

The best thing is I have "no" idea of where I'm going or when or if. I get up on the rest day and sometime during that day, Carnac tells me where to go.

<1. The trains have been surprisingly comfortable, clean and on-time.>

Ah, but just wait until you are on the Coast Starlight. It leaves on time from Seattle but after that.....

Are you planning Chi-Sea or the Chi-Pdx route?
 
The trains that have always been late for me is as Brat says, the Coast Starlight. Freight traffic takes precedence, which is a big problem. The last time I went that route was after a lot of flooding, the trains had to move slow. It took 8 extra hours to get to LAX from Portland.
 
Haven't ridden much since '93 but on the Zephyr I believe thay pad a few extra hours between Sact'o and Oakland but still can run many hours late. I've heard that VIA Rail pads about 12 hours for the trans-Canada schedules. Anyone checked lately?

Also, they have catch up places. Remember getting a couple of hours extra off the train in places like Lake Louise, nice!
 
I skied at Big Mountain (Montana) once, and there were quite a few people who had to make an extended stay (and I'm sure others where got there days late) because of avalanches covering the tracks.

I think if I took a train anywhere that I need to be there at a certain time, or had connections, I'd check out the one time record for a few days before committing to a train.

It's been over 20 years since I've ridden Amtrak. Hope the service is better these days. I really enjoyed VIA rail in Canada though.
 
Goonie -Did you spend any nights on the train, or did you do hotels? I'm curious how easy it is to sleep on a train.

I always spent the nights (2 each way) onboard the Southwest Chief (Chi-LA & LA-Chi). Most trips I just stayed in Coach.....the seats were quite comfortable and reclined and had leg/foot rests......the seats were very similar to Lazy-boys. I slept very well every time, although you might want to take a blanket to cover up with, as sometimes the A/C is set pretty low. I like it cool or even cold when I sleep, but one trip even completely wrapped in a wool blanket, I about froze.....in the summer!

Several trips I had a sleeper roomette.......with 2 seats that face each other like a restaurant booth. The roomette is just slightly bigger than those 2 seats....enough extra room for about 2 airliner-allowed size carry-on bags. The roomettes are located on the upper level of the bi-level cars. At night, the car attendant comes in and turns the 2 seats into a lower berth, and unlatches and lowers the upper berth. Since I always traveled alone, I asked him to make up the upper berth for me, and leave the seats in normal position because I like to stay up late and read and watch the lights pass by outside. The restrooms are located on the lower level of the bi-level cars.......they're tiny....except for the women's restroom/dressing room which is a nice size, and although the handicap restroom is small, it's twice as big as the regular crappers!

One trip they were out of roomettes, and gave me a handicap room instead. I told them that I wasn't handicapped, but they said ALL sleeper accommodations were sold "1st come 1st served" irregardless of handicap or lack thereof. Anyway the handicap cabin is at one end of the bi-level cars on the lower level, and is the full width of the train car (roughly 10' wide) and about 8' long. It has the same seat/berth layout on one side of the room as the roomette does, and on the other side of the room is the private restroom with sink and toilet with a privacy curtain and a window curtain that can be pulled closed if your traveling with another person.

You paid the same standard fare whether you were traveling Coach or Sleeper, then you paid an additional fee for the Sleeper. I don't know how things are now, but back then (80's & 90's) the Sleeper fare included 3 meals per day in the diner.....anything on the menu. You could either eat in the diner, or the car attendant would bring it to your room......no extra charge. Also included were morning wake-up calls (if desired), and the daily newspaper and coffee and/or juice delivered to your room each morning. When the attendant prepared your bed at night, they also left a chocolate or mint on the pillow.

I always left in evening, so I'd go to the diner and have a nice steak dinner with all of the trimmings, then it was off to the lounge/snack car for the nightly movie, then to the snack bar for a late evening snack, then back to my seat or room for a good night's sleep. In the morning it was to the diner for a nice breakfast, then to the lounge/snack car to listen to a step-on-guide if they had one come onboard, otherwise I'd just watch America pass by my window. At lunch time I went to the diner (especially if I was traveling in the Sleeper) for a nice lunch, or, if I was traveling Coach, I might just grab a couple of hot dogs and chips in the snack car. Then it was nap, read, watch scenery, etc. until dinner time.

I found it very easy to sleep on the train, whether in Coach or Sleeper. YMMV.
 
Thanks Goonie! - I'll check into this, It looks like train trips have two of my favorite pastimes covered - napping and eating.
 
Ron, when I travel I take a sleeper. I first started with the roomette but now pay the extra for a deluxe sleeper, which has a chair, a couch that turns into a good size bed, and an upper bunk as well. It also has a private bath/shower in the room:

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There are a lot of different kinds of sleeper accommodations. Sometimes if they don't have the kind you request, they will upgrade you at no additional cost. One compact kind was AKA the iron lung which were still running on the overnight line from Chi to DC in '93. Anyone ever use the kind with curtains like in "Some Like it Hot"?
 
There are a lot of different kinds of sleeper accommodations. Sometimes if they don't have the kind you request, they will upgrade you at no additional cost. One compact kind was AKA the iron lung which were still running on the overnight line from Chi to DC in '93. Anyone ever use the kind with curtains like in "Some Like it Hot"?

When I was a kid (back in the 50's and 60's), you could either get sleepers very similar to what Martha showed, or you could get bunk in a pullman which had upper and lower curtained bunk beds on each side of the aisle, end on end for the whole length of the car. No matter which type of accomodation, I slept like a ROCK. Nothing is more soothing than the swaying and clackity-clack sounds of the train. Haven't been on a train since 1964, though.
 
We're planning to ride the Coast Starlight during the winter holidays to visit the in-laws - must confess (in the anonymity of the internet) that an additional 8 hours on the train sounds perfectly wonderful!
 
I'm wishing you the best of all delays.

We're planning to ride the Coast Starlight during the winter holidays to visit the in-laws - must confess (in the anonymity of the internet) that an additional 8 hours on the train sounds perfectly wonderful!
 
Are you finding the train stations in bad neighborhoods? They reason I'm asking is after leaving the train can you walk to most places that you want to see?
 
I'm still learning the train system so it's gonna be interesting for me.

The NYC, Philly and Pitt stations have all been in very safe areas and close to city center.

Pitt is right on the East edge of the tall buildings and across the street is the convention center and a beautiful new Westin.

Philly was near U of Penn, so lots of students, and it was about a 6-7 block walk to the city.

So far all clean, safe and well policed.
 
Well, it's pretty much over, I hit Vancouver, BC on the 14th and am now back to Seattle. It has been interesting, challenging, exasperating, fun, not-so-fun, and enjoyable. I would NOT do it again but am glad I did it once.

NYC-Philly-Pittsburg-Chicago-Milwaukee-St.Louis-KC-Denver-Portland-Seattle-Vancouver.

Trains, planes and buses.
Train stations in all the cities I listed are in fairly safe areas of the city. Not by much, but generally felt safe. Trains were clean, seats not plush but comfortable, lots of leg room and the passengers not overly deranged. The trains generally managed to be 1-2 hours late even on a 2 hour scheduled run. Sometimes with no apparent reasons. No stops or slow downs.

Sight seeing from the train was less enjoyable than I had anticipated. Lots of time in areas with high embankments or tree lined . Lots of nice views of lakes and rivers but also lots of views of old warehouses and trailer parks with junker cars everywhere.

Most enjoyable travel part of the trip was the bus rides to and from Vancouver. One was an Amtrak Shuttle bus and the other a QuickCoach bus. Both were nicer seats but less leg room and a much quieter and on-time ride.

Highlight of trip was Vancouver. Great city.
Biggest disappointment was missing out on getting a Town Topic burger in KC.
Oddest thing. InToTheMystic (ER's traveling gourmand) was in some of the same cities just a day ahead of me. So I ate from his suggestions lists on his blog. Sam #3 in Denver was suggested to me by Athena and a better breakfast is gonna be hard to find. (Eggs, country biscuits, all covered by sausage and gravy.)
 
Fascinating journey Enuf, thanks very much for sharing. I've often wondered about train travel and it is good to hear a first hand report from the field.
Thanks for sharing!
What's the next adventure? :)
 
Sarah, glad you enjoyed. It was whirlwind.

I wish I knew what was next. Part of the trip was to see if one of the places called out to me. They did not.

So on we go.
 
Keep us posted. Some of us live vicariously through others' adventures, in lieu of FIRE...
 
HFWR, thanks, I will keep in touch.
I'm sitting here looking out at the TransAmerica Pyramid from atop Knob Hill. Cheap old hotel (Grosevenor Suites) like those that Bogart stayed in as Sam Spade. Sky dark blue, water shimmering coal gray, lights twinkling from Oakland and the ships and islands. Wow.
 
HFWR, thanks, I will keep in touch.
I'm sitting here looking out at the TransAmerica Pyramid from atop Knob Hill. Cheap old hotel (Grosevenor Suites) like those that Bogart stayed in as Sam Spade. Sky dark blue, water shimmering coal gray, lights twinkling from Oakland and the ships and islands. Wow.

Sounds like you're home. Hey, it's Nob Hill.
 
Cuppa, too funny. Hey, I been away. Cover story needed also. I keep looking for Knob Creek.

Dude, I had to climb Mason from Market up to Pine. Oxygen. The fog. Adds up. Going over to Harry's place for a while tonight.
 
Just an update on today. At Lewisburg, PA, clickety-clack, and suddenly a couple of Homeland Security guys got on and escorted off a well dressed man with a heavy Persian accent as opposed to an Arabic accent. He seemed totally resigned to being caught.

Also went thru Horseshoe Curve and wow that was pretty neat. Like entering Yankee Stadium from left-center field and exiting right-center.

Five college kids talked non-stop for 6 hours. Any surprise:confused: They were actually pretty respectful and seemed like typical young person with lots of promise. Hope they learn that the lungs can only vacuum 1 billion cubic feet of air before clogging. They did half that today.

The station in Pittsburgh looks like it cost the city nothing. Looks like an old public toilet.

Yes, the horseshoe curve is great to see. Summer is the time because during the winter it is dark when you arrive there. There is a web cam of the curve at http://64.84.107.59/view/index.shtml Also, here is a decent web site with history: http://www.railroadcity.com/hc/index.php Regarding Pittsburgh, yeah what is left of the station looks like a bus terminal. The old station (same location, but upstairs), has been converted into condos (or something like that) but was quite nice.
 
copyright,
thanks for the links, I just watched a freight round the Horseshoe. That portion of the trip was quite memorable. Loved the Allegheny Mountains.

Too bad about the Pittsburgh train station, the exterior looked really neat so the original station must have been nice and I really liked the city and a nice old time train station would have been a great addition. And spot on, it looks like a Greyhound waiting area.

My favorite station was Denver, kinda looked like there should be some penny farthings out front and lots of cattle cars on adjacent tracks. Also the restored Union Station in St. Louis shows just how grand that old station was.
 
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My favorite station was Denver, kinda looked like there should be some penny farthings out front and lots of cattle cars on adjacent tracks....
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Say it ain't so, 'Nuf, say Joe misunderstands. I am shocked, shocked! You went to the Denver train station and didn't hop on to go through the Moffitt tunnel and travel into the mountains for 400 miles along the green green Colorado River? You didn't take another train from the West and see the same glorious river by afternoon light and approach Denver by night from above?

Ok, I get it, I've met 100s of people who hate train travel. Like ER, leave it to those of us who know pearls when we see them and don't appreciate frequent flyer miles.

I'm sorry I read this thread! This is so dangerous for me as I will be free to hop the rails in Sept. Last time I had some open-ended time, it took me three days to plan a train trip that would go continuously for as many days as possible, 4-1/2 days and nights.;)
 
Cuppa,
oh, I feel your rage, it's an egregious thing but I experienced a huge honkin train Bogarting. You can't always get what you want.

I wanted a seat next to Annie Oakley but she was not traveling that day.

Hope Sept has a better offering.
Enuf
 
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