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(I don't understand what y'all are arguing about, but dial it back please, it's Christmas)
Wow, relax. There was nothing biased about what I said. And certainly nothing ignorant.
But have a good day, and Merry Christmas!
I think with a 4-team playoff, you obviously can't do that. With an 8-team playoff it's easy to make sure that each P5 conference, and at least one G5 conference, is represented.Perhaps it wasn't biased or ignorant... just misleading.
You suggested that I said that the Big 10 should get a rep in the BCS every year when I clearly did not say that (which I explained).
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that it was a misguided attempt at humor that went off the rails.
I think with a 4-team playoff, you obviously can't do that. With an 8-team playoff it's easy to make sure that each P5 conference, and at least one G5 conference, is represented.
Then, if Alabama, Clemson or Ohio State don't win their conference championship, the "polls" can still make sure at least two of them can get in with at-large bids.
I like the idea of an 8 team playoff. It keeps the same top teams from dominating for a 5+ year stretch.
1. The BCS is no more. It has been replaced by the CFP (College Football Playoff) system.Isn't the structure of the BCS playoffs designed to maximize revenue? If that is not optimized now, then changes should be made to do so.
Fairness to players, teams, schools, conferences, fans, etc. has little to do with it beyond happy fans being spending fans. Major college sports are big business and need to be run accordingly.
Perhaps it wasn't biased or ignorant... just misleading.
You suggested that I said that the Big 10 should get a rep in the BCS every year when I clearly did not say that (which I explained).
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that it was a misguided attempt at humor that went off the rails.
1. The BCS is no more. It has been replaced by the CFP (College Football Playoff) system.
2. If they want to be treated as a business, then they can be taxed like one, through the "Unrelated Business Income Tax". At least in terms of big time college football (and men's basketball), the educational mission -- which justifies the tax exemption -- took a back seat to "making a buck" a long time ago. If the primary mission is to make money rather than to promote education...
And from my name, you can figure out what I've got to say.
Roll Tide
Do you know that 2/3 of all University of Alabama students are from out of state? They'd rather pay out of state tuition AND be assured of being a winner.
As I said, good G5 teams have beaten good P5 teams in bowls. But we'll never know in the CFP if a #7 or 8 could win because the P5 won't let it happen.
Yea. But not the best teams. The G5 do not recruit the same players as the elite P5 teams. There has not been a G5 that warranted inclusion in the playoff, at least not to date. They play lesser competition and usually do not put together resumes comparable to the playoff-level teams.
I'd love to see it.
A big part of the problem is that the system, including this playoff system, makes that a self-fulfilling prophecy, so to speak. It’s easy to say the G5 doesn’t deserve a shot because they have not proven worthy, but they can’t prove it under the current caste system. It’s a variant on “no experience, no job” and “no job, no experience”.
Schedule tough teams in the non-confidence.
But if a team has not played tough teams, how can they be highly rated?
You need to have some sort of tradition too in order to.be perceived as worthy.
And if lesser known schools don't get a real shot, how can they recruit better players? Yes, we've all seen the "cupcake" games, but those are often used by big schools as warm up games at the beginning of the season or midsession for 2nd/3rd string player experience.
Isn't the structure of the BCS playoffs designed to maximize revenue?
There has not been a G5 that warranted inclusion in the playoff, at least not to date.
We'll just have to agree to disagree. Cincy deserved it this year over, say ND. They dominated everyone. This was a unique year where they should've been given a shot but no G5 team gets one no matter the circumstances.
The point here as mentioned above is that the G5 will never get a sniff and we'll never know if they can move up with recruits etc. because the P5 won't let them.
Too bad there cannot be a March madness type play off for college football like there is for college basketball. In college basketball there are often Cinderella teams that make it to the Final Four--that is what makes March madness so much fun to watch. I guess with football it is not not possible to have a 64 team playoff.
FCS has a 24 team playoff, with the top 8 teams having a bye. But they have the first round games the last weekend in November (as early as Nov 24), so the FBS/CFP season would have to end earlier, including conference championship games. I suppose you could incorporate those into the playoffs, but that would give a few teams like Notre Dame (until this year) a bye, which seems unfair.
For teams that continue on in the playoffs it would disrupt finals. Somehow education is apparently a bigger thing at this level than FCS, which I doubt. And it would pretty much eliminate the bowls. I don't get how the bowls have such power over the process if the TV revenue would be higher with a playoff. The bowls could even take what's left of the teams that didn't make the playoffs.
Could be that some coaches don't like it because a playoff like this leaves 23 of the top 24 teams with a season ending loss. If there are 40 bowl games, then 40 teams go out with a win, or maybe 38 if that's counting the semifinals as bowls.
I've followed the FCS playoffs because my son's alma mater usually makes them and have gone to the finals 4 times since he first went there. It's really exciting to have 4 or 5 absolutely must win games.