Thanks, I will watch these later tonight when I get a chance.
And the Americans demand for freedom evidence? I see some people without masks not observing distancing every time I’m out. Some people here have repeatedly voiced very strong objections to lockdowns, closures and even basic precautions. Protestors all across the nation demanding reopening and not taking recommended precautions. They may all be minorities now, but they’re growing and that will continue until we're much further down the road.
Add more and more people and businesses under increasing financial stress with uncoordinated testing and the outlook isn't great. Hopefully we get lucky with therapies like remdesivir or another, lots of research underway, fingers crossed.
BTW, you tell me where I’m wrong, honest that’s great. I’m learning as I go like most, and I’ve been wrong in hindsight quite a few times. What do you recommend?
EDIT: And I’m not trying to provoke anyone. I’m trying to learn, I’ve made mistakes in hindsight and I’ve been reminded of aspects I hadn’t thought of. Take my thoughts with a grain of salt...
Thank you, your statement makes me feel better at responding. So, here's my feelings and thoughts on the matter:
1. The American people were asked to "flatten the curve", that their help was required to have that happen so that our health care system wasn't overwhelmed.
2. The vast majority of them responded to that request. Sure, there were exceptions - like the kids that went on spring break because they had already paid for it. And perhaps negligent governments like NYC and NYS who refused to close the schools because they didn't know what to do with school lunch issues. (I mention this only because I was at the point of REFUSING to let my child go to school in early March). But for the most part, people went along as best they could during the lock down.
3. This willingness to cooperate is both time-bounded and sanity-check bounded. What I mean by sanity-check is once people start to see restrictions and loss of rights that make no sense (like citations given to a church service where all the participants are IN THEIR OWN VEHICLE with the windows up), like the old couple who were told they couldn't sit on the bench but sitting on the sand/grass was allowed, like Home Depot's in certain states having to have their seed section taped off, like... well after awhile, people start to see that and say F. that. The time-based aspect comes because unlike we "rich, retired" people, most people don't have the luxury to stay home forever. They are losing their businesses and wave after wave of newly unemployed.
4. There is a city-centric, coastal bias in news reporting and action plans associated with the virus. Look, I worked in NYC for ten years and rode the trains there, rode the subways - so I understand their importance. But the cases seen in NYC (likely from extensive use of mass transit by carriers) is NOT the norm. My county (upstate NY) has had so far 298 cases...and yes we have indoor plumbing here!
Yes, there is a reason for me to wear a mask if I go into a store - but there is NO reason that I should be required to wear a mask while walking down a rural road by myself. Nor is there any reason why I shouldn't be able to use my class A RV - located less than 20 miles from my house - just because it is in a campground, and the private campground remains closed by state order. A REASONABLE approach would perhaps place limits on public facilities (e.g. rest room, pool), but what is the REALISTIC risk of me being in my RV, by myself, with my own bathroom?
What I am saying here is Americans buck when they see this. There are tons of rural counties with next to any case load, and the state governors need to recognize this and not treat them the same. For example, Winemaker just posted this:
https://www.early-retirement.org/forums/f55/what-was-your-covid-news-for-the-day-102601-74.html#post2422428
Our county south of "The 'Burgh" has a population of 200,000. We have 115 cases, 2 deaths, total. My circle of friends, relatives, tenants, contractors, winery customers and Home Depot & grocery store cashiers knows of no positive tested persons.
And yet, that county is considered "Red" under Gov Wolff (PA).
https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/dDRhS/1/. So that county is under a mandatory "Stay at Home" ORDER. That means if I lived in that county, I couldn't even legally take my son out to practice driving (permit) in my own vehicle even if we didn't stop to get out of the vehicle! How does this make sense?
When I used to work for a living, I was frequently involved with issues involving system scaling. Big projects, complex setups. When I was called in, it was because things weren't working properly. On software projects, there is a perception that if there are performance problems, either you need to just add hardware (sometimes this works, but not usually), or you needed to rewrite the code to make it more efficient. What people don't realize is that MOST of the code base doesn't need to change - AT ALL. It is a small portion of the code base in which the issue lies, and perhaps that might need to be rewritten or analyzed IN DEPTH to fix the issues.
So when we look at the country, and the danger associated with the virus - a systematic non-emotional approach would be one that doesn't treat all possible transmission vectors as equals, but concentrates on those that are the most problematic. So where are the cases coming from, and what are the transmission vectors based on actual experiences? Yes, someone has a chance of transmission while at a crowded beach, perhaps even after walking in sand that someone 60 minutes coughed on...but what is the probability of that event in comparison of where the vast majority of cases are coming from: crowded mass transit, close quarters requiring close touch w/health impaired (e.g. nursing home), and other similar possible vectors.
