newguy888 said:Oh man its cold in this room, gotta head over to the Home Depot for some weather stripping. Very drafty!!
Rangel, who opposed the 2003 invasion of Iraq, also said he did not think the United States would have invaded Iraq if the children of members of Congress were sent to fight. He has said the U.S. fighting force is comprised disproportionately of people from low-income families and minorities.
"I don't see how anyone can support the war and not support the draft. I think to do so is hypocritical," he said.
Rangel said his legislation on the draft would also offer the alternative of a couple of years of public service with educational benefits.
Caroline said:Who the heck does he think is going to be first in line for the "alternative" and have the connections to make sure they're accepted? The poor kids
Bah!
Patrick said:Here's a link to the draft bill he introduced back in February:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c109:H.R.4752:
newguy888 said:That is the trouble with you guys, I never said I wanted a draft . . .
I hate to say thie but america needs a military draft .
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We need to show the Iranians that we mean business. Otherwise they will have a nuclear weapon.
We need a 5 million man army AGAIN. Rumsfeld is gone and his ideas well look at Iraq do not work. Smaller faster, yada yada yada.
No we need bigtime boots on the ground from all walks of american society.
Not just people who join.
Patrick said:Your previous post:
OK, I get it. You don't "want" it, we just really "need" it. I see it now . . .
newguy888 said:Sometimes its the whisky talkin
Patrick said:Red or Black?
Very subtle, I like it! Or maybe it just takes a particular "world outlook"...brewer12345 said:Back to pics of 8008135...
mickeyd said:One benefit that the draft in the 50s, 60s and 70s provided was that it also forced young males to look at the military as a career.
brewer12345 said:How on earth is this a "benefit" either to the individuals in question or society?
How on earth is this a "benefit" either to the individuals in question or society?
mickeyd said:If it's not obvious to you, I understand.
coerced career choice can be viewed as a "benefit."
samclem said:I think the most interesting idea is the one proposed by Robert Heinlein in "Starship Troopers." No one is forced into any kind of compuilsory servitude, nor can anyone be refused if they want to serve. (there'd be something for anyone, regardless of handicap or ability). There'd be rom for COs in service, just as there is when we had the draft. After serving, you've earned the right to vote in elections. No service, no vote.
There--that ought to stir things up.
No service, no vote.