Agreed that it probably only makes sense if you are otherwise only slightly over the cliff. Even if the returns from the annuity were lower than the alternative investment the juice of Obamacare subsidies would more than offset it. Also agree it makes no sense if you are otherwise below 400% FPL.
However you would need to be very careful that the transaction to raise cash to buy the annuity doesn't result in a capital gain that puts you over 400% FPL and unwind your carefully laid plan.
I agree with the post.
However, some points that make me think I may use an annuity in the future in particular a deferred annuity
Pb4usk is correct that at the cliff $1 of income can cause a large increase in health care expenditures in fact under just the right conditions $1 can cost thousands in health care costs. However, this is due to the slope of the %income for insurance vs income curve. An article on the high slope at 400% fpl is here
http://www.obamacarecliff.com/
In the future the cutoff point and shape of the curve may very well shift. I read that aca has a clause where if it is costing too much of the gdp in a few years the cutoff shifts down and shape of the curve changes.
There are also cost sharing subsidies which kick in below 400% fpl. One is to lower your total out of pocket limit and another is to reduce the actuarial percentage of your medical costs you need to pay eg make your deductible lower. For someone who uses their insurance every year due to chronic conditions these are also factors.
I have 12 years to go to medicare and it is entirely possible I will have to forgo subsidies in some of those years and bunch capital gains, an inherited ira, or a transition into an annuity into that one year making up for it in future years. Thus I don't see the cap gains of moving to an annuity as a deal breaker.
The consensus is that the lousy interest rate aka expense and liquidity are big disadvantages and that is why I am not doing it - yet.
That is why this is an important thread to all of us we need to have tricks up our sleeve as aca evolves.
In that spirit here is another idea
Can you purchase a 10 year spider index future and put you us stock allocation of taxable money in that ?
If the market goes up in the next 10 years you will make money and in fact it is a proxy for s and p 500 mutual fund investment but pays out no dividends or cap gains until it expires at which time 65% of the gain is cap gains and 35% ordinary income ... I think
I haven't done this because the doesn't seem to be any such option at this time traded as a standard product.
There are leap options and super leaps but that only gets me 5 years out
http://ir.cboe.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=652383
You can apparently do this with enough money probably as a swap but we are talking many millions.
Any ideas how to make this work?