I am trying unsuccessfully estimate tax amounts for my financial spreadsheet. What I compute using a manual calculation using excel is not anywhere near what tax calculators on Forbes advisor or Smart Asset sites are coming up with which is frustrating. Without reasonable correct tax projections it's very hard to map out my FIRE and beyond I'm aiming for 2025 or 2026 and trying to figure out on my own...
Nothing matches and I'm locked down on my master financial projections sheet until this is figured out...
Let's use 2023 taxes for instance: married filing jointly. Lets make is simple using the top of the 12% bracket of $89,450. without the std. deduction I get $9,414. Smart Asset is coming up with $6,970 and Forbes advisor comes up with $6, 970 too.. I assume that the sites are using the std. deduction of $27,700 for married filing jointly so if I take $89,450 less the std. deduction that's an income of $61,750.. I manually calculate that out to $6,090. ($89,450 - $27, 700 less the first $11,000 not taxed = $51,750 at 12% which comes out to $6,210. What is going wrong here??
Also, how is everyone figuring their tax rates on a running year to year basis without manually calculating them? Very cumbersome if you are shuffling taxable and non taxable withdrawals to see how the numbers fall in place through all of your retirement years.
Surely somebody has a good spreadsheet to cover all the bases. I have some reasonable Excel skills but getting a spreadsheet up and running that keeps all the balls up in the air and tracking properly is getting the better of me...
I paid $7k to a financial advisor in 2021 to run retirement numbers with taxes and their numbers for taxes are way higher... Just not getting it...
I"m spending all my hours outside of work on this for weeks and it's taking the fun out of it. I have a full on reshuffling of retirement money too that needs to be done. Asset location and allocation...
Nothing matches and I'm locked down on my master financial projections sheet until this is figured out...
Let's use 2023 taxes for instance: married filing jointly. Lets make is simple using the top of the 12% bracket of $89,450. without the std. deduction I get $9,414. Smart Asset is coming up with $6,970 and Forbes advisor comes up with $6, 970 too.. I assume that the sites are using the std. deduction of $27,700 for married filing jointly so if I take $89,450 less the std. deduction that's an income of $61,750.. I manually calculate that out to $6,090. ($89,450 - $27, 700 less the first $11,000 not taxed = $51,750 at 12% which comes out to $6,210. What is going wrong here??
Also, how is everyone figuring their tax rates on a running year to year basis without manually calculating them? Very cumbersome if you are shuffling taxable and non taxable withdrawals to see how the numbers fall in place through all of your retirement years.
Surely somebody has a good spreadsheet to cover all the bases. I have some reasonable Excel skills but getting a spreadsheet up and running that keeps all the balls up in the air and tracking properly is getting the better of me...
I paid $7k to a financial advisor in 2021 to run retirement numbers with taxes and their numbers for taxes are way higher... Just not getting it...
I"m spending all my hours outside of work on this for weeks and it's taking the fun out of it. I have a full on reshuffling of retirement money too that needs to be done. Asset location and allocation...
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