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My wife and I both work for the same company, which happens to be a 30 minutes commute for me, and 36 minutes for her. This is 5 days a week. We would love to move closer to work as we've found a nice place that is only 4 minutes for me and 6 for her. This would add almost an hour a day to our free time! (Commute home at midnight is a little shorter) That is quite substantial when we think about it. Money is what is getting in our way, and we can't determine if it's because we're cheap, too focused on retirement, or just think we really can't afford it.
About this housing situation: We both love the new house. We also love our current house, so the decision is hard to make. We have some minor reservations but think the "risk" would be worth the much much shorter commute. Our concerns are that we currently live in a stand alone ranch home on 1.5 acres. If we move close to work, houses are MUCH more expensive for something comparable. This causes us to need to change to a town home which is affordable. We have looked endlessly for a house similar to ours near or closer to work but it just does not exist. Building is not an option as the land is far too expensive. The new house will have upgrades over our current home, which would entice us even more to move. Concerns about rowdy neighbors are a question, but we know someone who lives in this community and says neighbors are very nice and there aren't any problems that they've seen.
The financials of the situation is what makes us hesitate. If the house was the same price as ours, we would move instantly. However, our current house is valued at about 210k according to zillow. We paid 220 but got the 8000 tax rebate in 2009. We do not have to pay this back. We did do some upgrades that we believe should bring the value up, but probably only slightly from the 210. I have no idea what it would truly sell for.
So here's the catch. We own our home outright and have no debt at all. The new house is looking like it will end up at about 240k with all the options and "upgrades" that we would want. In our eyes, most of the upgrades are necessary. Ceiling lights, water line for the fridge, an extra window or 2, an outlet, an egress window... fireplace isn't necessary, but we have one now and use it all the time. I wouldn't dare move and not have one. The DW would kill me if we didn't have one. Quartz counter tops over laminate is again not necessary but we probably want to have them.
We hope that we could walk away with 195 to 200k after the 5% sales commission. This would leave us to spend about 45k, in addition to some other things we haven't accounted for in that house price like painting. Painting can be done fairly cheaply though, as I have a friend who likes to paint and would ask about 20 an hour, and a relative who would probably do it for free aside from paint costs.
Our financial overview:
Ages 27 and 28
Annual Income: Around 85k
Annual Expenditure: Under 30k
Debt: 0
Emergency Fund: 48k
401ks, IRAs, Pensions: 220k
House: Owned (210k value)
Stocks: 9k
We currently contribute 7.5% (me) and 10.5% (DW) of our pay to the pension, max out our Roth IRAs, Roth 401k, and traditional 401k. Our savings account hasn't really budged in the last 2 years. It stays fairly consistent meaning we are spending what we bring in. (aside from those contributions)
We own two cars, but may need to buy one relatively soon. The other car only has 28k miles. Should we move to this house and be so close to work, I could definitely consider riding a bike to work. If the old car died, we would be ok as I could bike, or in bad weather we could just carpool. Come to think of it, my coworker would actually drive past where I would be living so I could probably ride with him too.
I thought we could use the emergency fund as it is earning very little interest in savings, and a mortgage is in the upper 3% range. This would leave us with almost no emergency fund, but no other debt either. Should an emergency come up we could use a home equity loan or stop retirement contributions.
All of this, and our goal is to start early semi retirement by age 37 and 38. Early semi retirement to us is working to cover expenses somewhere nicer than we live now. We would not plan to touch retirement accounts for a few years after that. That all depends on how much we enjoy the jobs we meander into.
Is spending this extra 45k (maybe a little more) crazy? Are we cheap? It is hard to not take an extra hour of free time per day. We really like this house, and have looked at many in a similar price range and below, but nothing suited our style. Any and all thoughts are appreciated. Sorry for the long-winded post!
My wife and I both work for the same company, which happens to be a 30 minutes commute for me, and 36 minutes for her. This is 5 days a week. We would love to move closer to work as we've found a nice place that is only 4 minutes for me and 6 for her. This would add almost an hour a day to our free time! (Commute home at midnight is a little shorter) That is quite substantial when we think about it. Money is what is getting in our way, and we can't determine if it's because we're cheap, too focused on retirement, or just think we really can't afford it.
About this housing situation: We both love the new house. We also love our current house, so the decision is hard to make. We have some minor reservations but think the "risk" would be worth the much much shorter commute. Our concerns are that we currently live in a stand alone ranch home on 1.5 acres. If we move close to work, houses are MUCH more expensive for something comparable. This causes us to need to change to a town home which is affordable. We have looked endlessly for a house similar to ours near or closer to work but it just does not exist. Building is not an option as the land is far too expensive. The new house will have upgrades over our current home, which would entice us even more to move. Concerns about rowdy neighbors are a question, but we know someone who lives in this community and says neighbors are very nice and there aren't any problems that they've seen.
The financials of the situation is what makes us hesitate. If the house was the same price as ours, we would move instantly. However, our current house is valued at about 210k according to zillow. We paid 220 but got the 8000 tax rebate in 2009. We do not have to pay this back. We did do some upgrades that we believe should bring the value up, but probably only slightly from the 210. I have no idea what it would truly sell for.
So here's the catch. We own our home outright and have no debt at all. The new house is looking like it will end up at about 240k with all the options and "upgrades" that we would want. In our eyes, most of the upgrades are necessary. Ceiling lights, water line for the fridge, an extra window or 2, an outlet, an egress window... fireplace isn't necessary, but we have one now and use it all the time. I wouldn't dare move and not have one. The DW would kill me if we didn't have one. Quartz counter tops over laminate is again not necessary but we probably want to have them.
We hope that we could walk away with 195 to 200k after the 5% sales commission. This would leave us to spend about 45k, in addition to some other things we haven't accounted for in that house price like painting. Painting can be done fairly cheaply though, as I have a friend who likes to paint and would ask about 20 an hour, and a relative who would probably do it for free aside from paint costs.
Our financial overview:
Ages 27 and 28
Annual Income: Around 85k
Annual Expenditure: Under 30k
Debt: 0
Emergency Fund: 48k
401ks, IRAs, Pensions: 220k
House: Owned (210k value)
Stocks: 9k
We currently contribute 7.5% (me) and 10.5% (DW) of our pay to the pension, max out our Roth IRAs, Roth 401k, and traditional 401k. Our savings account hasn't really budged in the last 2 years. It stays fairly consistent meaning we are spending what we bring in. (aside from those contributions)
We own two cars, but may need to buy one relatively soon. The other car only has 28k miles. Should we move to this house and be so close to work, I could definitely consider riding a bike to work. If the old car died, we would be ok as I could bike, or in bad weather we could just carpool. Come to think of it, my coworker would actually drive past where I would be living so I could probably ride with him too.
I thought we could use the emergency fund as it is earning very little interest in savings, and a mortgage is in the upper 3% range. This would leave us with almost no emergency fund, but no other debt either. Should an emergency come up we could use a home equity loan or stop retirement contributions.
All of this, and our goal is to start early semi retirement by age 37 and 38. Early semi retirement to us is working to cover expenses somewhere nicer than we live now. We would not plan to touch retirement accounts for a few years after that. That all depends on how much we enjoy the jobs we meander into.
Is spending this extra 45k (maybe a little more) crazy? Are we cheap? It is hard to not take an extra hour of free time per day. We really like this house, and have looked at many in a similar price range and below, but nothing suited our style. Any and all thoughts are appreciated. Sorry for the long-winded post!