Midpack
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In the 11 years I've been with Vanguard I've never asked anything of my rep, and didn't expect anything much. I had a portfolio asset allocation review twice, and they were worthwhile IMO, even though they were free (I would have paid a small fee for the exercise).
But I've continued to struggle with whether or not to do Roth conversions for years, and I thought surely Vanguard could advise me there. I've done various free online calculators, but they're generic black boxes, not meant as a sole basis for decision making. And they've all come back telling me conversions were pretty much a wash in our case.
i-ORP is the best tool I've seen, though it seems to have changed some over the years, and it too is a black box - I have no way of knowing how accurate it is. So I thought surely Vanguard could do something like what i-ORP does.
I asked my rep for a comprehensive withdrawal plan, including taxes showing Roth conversions if recommended. He said a Vanguard CFP could do that - a pleasant surprise. I told the rep and the CFP that I wasn't interested in an asset allocation review, said we could skip that part if it was part of their package. The CFP called and interviewed me for 45 minutes to prepare his response, and I made it very clear what I wanted, and didn't need. All sounded great.
Got all excited about the whole exercise.
So Monday, what do they send me - the same standard asset allocation review they've always provided, with no insights regarding withdrawals, taxes or Roth conversions. To top it off they recommended I dump one of my Vanguard funds - one I bought years ago based solely on their recommendation to buy it! And I told them both I'd be happy with reducing my AA to 50/50, the package used 60/40 as the target.
So though I don't expect much, IMO Vanguard delivers less in the advisor role...
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But I've continued to struggle with whether or not to do Roth conversions for years, and I thought surely Vanguard could advise me there. I've done various free online calculators, but they're generic black boxes, not meant as a sole basis for decision making. And they've all come back telling me conversions were pretty much a wash in our case.
i-ORP is the best tool I've seen, though it seems to have changed some over the years, and it too is a black box - I have no way of knowing how accurate it is. So I thought surely Vanguard could do something like what i-ORP does.
I asked my rep for a comprehensive withdrawal plan, including taxes showing Roth conversions if recommended. He said a Vanguard CFP could do that - a pleasant surprise. I told the rep and the CFP that I wasn't interested in an asset allocation review, said we could skip that part if it was part of their package. The CFP called and interviewed me for 45 minutes to prepare his response, and I made it very clear what I wanted, and didn't need. All sounded great.
Got all excited about the whole exercise.
So Monday, what do they send me - the same standard asset allocation review they've always provided, with no insights regarding withdrawals, taxes or Roth conversions. To top it off they recommended I dump one of my Vanguard funds - one I bought years ago based solely on their recommendation to buy it! And I told them both I'd be happy with reducing my AA to 50/50, the package used 60/40 as the target.
So though I don't expect much, IMO Vanguard delivers less in the advisor role...
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