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A NY TImes opinion article discusses the cost and benefit (note singular) of the Large Hadron Collider operated by CERN.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/23/...ule=Well&pgtype=Homepage§ion=Contributors
Long ago in a thread I can't remember I commented roughly: Smashing particles together at high energy levels to learn about the universe is akin to dropping pianos from the 10th floor in an attempt to learn and to play music. Yes, notes will produced, hardly a good way to learn music or to become a musician.
Now the particle physicists are proposing to build an even bigger 10 Billion collider bonndoggle. There are several gems to note in the article.
Cost 5 Billion, annual operating cost about 1 Billion and found: The Higgs boson. Nothing else of any significance...
The author formerly working at CERN writes:
"In 2012, experiments at the L.H.C. confirmed the discovery of the Higgs boson — a prediction that dates back to the 1960s — and it remains the only discovery made at the L.H.C. Particle physicists are quick to emphasize that they have learned other things: For example, they now have better knowledge about the structure of the proton, and they’ve seen new (albeit unstable) composite particles. But let’s be honest: It’s disappointing."
"Before the L.H.C. started operation, particle physicists had more exciting predictions than that. They thought that other new particles would also appear near the energy at which the Higgs boson could be produced. They also thought that the L.H.C. would see evidence for new dimensions of space. They further hoped that this mammoth collider would deliver clues about the nature of dark matter (which astrophysicists think constitutes 85 percent of the matter in the universe) or about a unified force."
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The stories about new particles, dark matter and additional dimensions were repeated in countless media outlets from before the launch of the L.H.C. until a few years ago. What happened to those predictions? The simple answer is this: Those predictions were wrong — that much is now clear.
The trouble is, a “prediction” in particle physics is today little more than guesswork. (In case you were wondering, yes, that’s exactly why I left the field.)"
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/23/...ule=Well&pgtype=Homepage§ion=Contributors
Long ago in a thread I can't remember I commented roughly: Smashing particles together at high energy levels to learn about the universe is akin to dropping pianos from the 10th floor in an attempt to learn and to play music. Yes, notes will produced, hardly a good way to learn music or to become a musician.
Now the particle physicists are proposing to build an even bigger 10 Billion collider bonndoggle. There are several gems to note in the article.
Cost 5 Billion, annual operating cost about 1 Billion and found: The Higgs boson. Nothing else of any significance...
The author formerly working at CERN writes:
"In 2012, experiments at the L.H.C. confirmed the discovery of the Higgs boson — a prediction that dates back to the 1960s — and it remains the only discovery made at the L.H.C. Particle physicists are quick to emphasize that they have learned other things: For example, they now have better knowledge about the structure of the proton, and they’ve seen new (albeit unstable) composite particles. But let’s be honest: It’s disappointing."
"Before the L.H.C. started operation, particle physicists had more exciting predictions than that. They thought that other new particles would also appear near the energy at which the Higgs boson could be produced. They also thought that the L.H.C. would see evidence for new dimensions of space. They further hoped that this mammoth collider would deliver clues about the nature of dark matter (which astrophysicists think constitutes 85 percent of the matter in the universe) or about a unified force."
"
The stories about new particles, dark matter and additional dimensions were repeated in countless media outlets from before the launch of the L.H.C. until a few years ago. What happened to those predictions? The simple answer is this: Those predictions were wrong — that much is now clear.
The trouble is, a “prediction” in particle physics is today little more than guesswork. (In case you were wondering, yes, that’s exactly why I left the field.)"