New tires are over 2 years old!

[wolf]

First time this has ever happened. Wheel Works. Purchased 4 tires. Came home. 3 tires mfg. 2016, week 22. 4th tire. 2016, week 36.
My plan: 1. Ask for 4 replacement tires. 2. If they refuse. Ask for 1/3 $ refund. 3. If they refuse. Dispute the charge on my credit card.

This is based on, current information. At 6 years, tires should be replaced.
Age does matter. ie. rubber drys out, etc. I've already used up 2 years.

Been a customer probably over 30+ years. Will see if they have any goodwill.

 

[homestead]

They do age better in a warehouse since they don't get direct sunlight but the
last time I bought 4 new tires for my truck my tire guy call his distributor and asked him to send over 4 fresh ones (recently manufactured) I sold my 6 yr old tires to a guy who would wear them out in 1 yr.

 

[RobbieB]

I have never looked at my tires to see when they were made. They all lasted a long time (wear bars showing) Never had a problem.

 

[Just_Steve]

I have never looked at my tires to see when they were made. They all lasted a long time (wear bars showing) Never had a problem.

I have never looked on the cars but I do on the bike tires, I can roll the dice when on 4 wheels but not 2.

 

[badatmath]

In my past ignorance I allowed a punctured tire to be replaced in 2014 and never asked about the date. The "new" tire was made in 2010.



Now granted I had no problems with it but it irritates me I have to insist on "new" being "new" and "verify" that it actually is true. I remembered this time though. . .

 

[RobbieB]

I just rolled out on 9 yr old bike tires yesterday. Still posting. Bikes are in the garage -

 

[Just_Steve]

I just rolled out on 9 yr old bike tires yesterday. Still posting. Bikes are in the garage -

You need to ride more miles or have fewer bikes.
I only have the one bike and when I get two season out of a set I'm pretty happy.

 

[brett]

This is one reason why we always buy tires at Costco. Lots of fresh stocking moving through and a no nonsense warranty and return policy.

 

[Texas Proud]

From what I read it is 8 years, not 6....


But looked and some tire mfg say up to 10.... here is an article...




https://www.edmunds.com/car-care/how-old-and-dangerous-are-your-tires.html

 

[wolf]

From what I read it is 8 years, not 6....


But looked and some tire mfg say up to 10.... here is an article...




https://www.edmunds.com/car-care/how-old-and-dangerous-are-your-tires.html

Just read your reference article.

Page 2/8. How long does a tire last? "....Nissan and Mercedes-Benze tells consumers to replace tires six years after their production date, regardless of tread life."........" Continental and Michelin say.....10 years,
provided you get annual tire inspections after the fifth year.

Page3/8. Make sure You're getting a "Fresh" tire. "......It is fair for a consumer to expect that "new"
is not several years old,"......


So, who do you believe. The person who sells the tire. Or the Consumer groups. ?.

Thanks for letting me vent.....

 

[kitesurfer2]

I have never looked on the cars but I do on the bike tires, I can roll the dice when on 4 wheels but not 2.

I HEAR YA! I never checked the codes on my bike tires but probably should have. They were always replaced before a year anyway. I started trailering and that saved me a bunch of worn out tires. Tires last many years stored in a wear house (which is probably environmentally controlled).

 

[Lukeee]

From experience, Old stale tires lose their grip noticably in the wet (not referring to aquaplaning) as the ozone affects the rubber. Heat cycles affect the effectiveness too. I would go back to the tire shop and ask for fresh tires. The inspection that tire shops look out for are cracks on the sidewall which ignores the lost in performance of the tires as they age.

Not sure if any of you have had the soles of new shows crumble on you from just sitting in a shelf for years. Imo it’s the same thing that tires go through.

I personally change tires out after 4 years regardless of visible condition. It’s a relatively cheap safety insurance.

 

[Newventurer]

This is one thing that keeps me from wanting to purchase tires from Internet providers. I have asked in the past and they say they cannot (will not) guarantee any date range.

OTOH I had purchased a set of Michelin’s for a truck I didn’t put many miles on and after 5 years they had sidewall cracks (truck never garaged). Took it back to Discount tires and they gave me $300 (IIRC) credit on a new set since they still had significant tread left. They continue to operate in a manner that keeps my business.

 

[kaneohe]

I have never looked at my tires to see when they were made. They all lasted a long time (wear bars showing) Never had a problem.

I think the problem relates to sudden failure of tire due to structural integrity, not gradual wear of tread.

 

[kaneohe]

This is one reason why we always buy tires at Costco. Lots of fresh stocking moving through and a no nonsense warranty and return policy.

another data pt for Costco.....checked date codes (for first time) and age was < 1 yr old when bought.

 

[Bamaman]

How long does it take for you to wear out a set of tires?

Two of my cars have ultra high performance tires--40 and 45 series low profiles. They scarcely last longer than 20-25k miles. I buy tires for vehicles yearly anyway.

 

[Car-Guy]

How long does it take for you to wear out a set of tires?

Two of my cars have ultra high performance tires--40 and 45 series low profiles. They scarcely last longer than 20-25k miles. I buy tires for vehicles yearly anyway.

I wish I could get that kind of mileage out of my performance tires. I just bought a new set of 295-45's after only ~13k miles and 6mos of use. (Bought the car new in January) Wear bars were just starting to show. Almost $2k for a set, and they have to be special ordered. One of the downsides of owning ultra high performance cars.

 

[Texas Proud]

Just read your reference article.

Page 2/8. How long does a tire last? "....Nissan and Mercedes-Benze tells consumers to replace tires six years after their production date, regardless of tread life."........" Continental and Michelin say.....10 years,
provided you get annual tire inspections after the fifth year.

Page3/8. Make sure You're getting a "Fresh" tire. "......It is fair for a consumer to expect that "new"
is not several years old,"......


So, who do you believe. The person who sells the tire. Or the Consumer groups. ?.

Thanks for letting me vent.....

I do not remember seeing consumer groups in the article....


I think the car companies are CYA at 6 years.... also, the article says there is a difference in a tire being used and one that is not... from my reading that means a 6 YO tire that has been on a vehicle is worse off than a 6 YO tire that was on the shelf for 2 to 4 years and is now on a vehicle....


Either way, I have asked how old the tires are every time I buy tires....



NOW, the one thing that I have not done is change out the spare!!! I have never thought about that one... so will have to think about it since one car is hitting 10 years and another will do so next year...

 

[Texas Proud]

This is one thing that keeps me from wanting to purchase tires from Internet providers. I have asked in the past and they say they cannot (will not) guarantee any date range.

OTOH I had purchased a set of Michelin’s for a truck I didn’t put many miles on and after 5 years they had sidewall cracks (truck never garaged). Took it back to Discount tires and they gave me $300 (IIRC) credit on a new set since they still had significant tread left. They continue to operate in a manner that keeps my business.

Yea, I love Discount Tire.... I had a trailer tire that de-laminated (whole tread came lose) and since I had bought 3 tires from them they could see that the other had plenty of tread.... gave me full value back on that tire.... I then bought a higher speed rated tire and they gave me money back for the one that was still 'good'...


But I have also been disappointed with them.... I bought some Michelin tires that were supposed to go 90K miles... got about 40K from them... I did get the money back for the tires BUT I had also bought the extended warranty for road hazards since they were supposed to last so long... I got nothing back for that... I argued that I had bought warranty for a 90K tire but would not have for a 40K tire... nothing....

 

[CardsFan]

OK. You made me look. About 9 months from manufacturing date when purchased in 2016. Since they were made in Korea (Nexen) I consider that pretty "fresh".

I used the local Midas shop, owned by a friend and managed by his son. He buys from a warehouse as needed. He can get any tire I want, and recommended Nexen as a good value for my 2012 Altima. I average less than 7,500 miles per year.

 

[Crabby Mike]

I care about the manufacture date on my motorhome tires, which are more likely to age out than wear out (and by the way, the RV community's consensus seems to be ~7 years), but not on my daily driver, which goes through tires every two years or so at ~25k/year. And I don't tend to worry too much about my spares, which are hidden from UV light, the biggest cause of sidewall cracking, which is the main problem seen from tire aging, AFAIK.

 

[JoeWras]

Yea, I love Discount Tire.... I had a trailer tire that de-laminated (whole tread came lose) and since I had bought 3 tires from them they could see that the other had plenty of tread.... gave me full value back on that tire.... I then bought a higher speed rated tire and they gave me money back for the one that was still 'good'...


But I have also been disappointed with them.... I bought some Michelin tires that were supposed to go 90K miles... got about 40K from them... I did get the money back for the tires BUT I had also bought the extended warranty for road hazards since they were supposed to last so long... I got nothing back for that... I argued that I had bought warranty for a 90K tire but would not have for a 40K tire... nothing....

DW ripped a sidewall a few months after purchase. They let her retroactively buy the warranty. I was blown away.

I admit to being a Discount Tire fan, even if not perfect. It is more than the tires. They provide good employment for young people. A friend's kid worked there and learned discipline and life skills. They reward well for good work. Don't put up with being late, etc.

As for the tires, they move them and are fresh. You can ask the service writer the age. They have it in the system. That said, I never got anything stale from DT. And if you ask, they won't blow off your question. They know about tire age. (Had other places say: "What does that matter??" )

 

[Willers]

OK, you made me check my two sets. Bought both from Tire Rack in 2016. One set was brand new (manufactured the same month I bought them). The other was 13 months old. Thanks for the tip. I'll definitely ask from now on!

 

[Tom52]

I also like Discount Tire but you have to watch them. Some years ago I bought a new set of Michelin tires for my pick up. I don't put much more than 5,000 miles a year on the truck and I rotate tires frequently. After 6 years and with about 35,000 miles on the tires I took the truck in for tire rotation. Discount Tire said they can't rotate them because they are not allowed to touch any tire that is over 10 years old. I said, "no way the tires are ten years old, I purchased them from you six years ago." After some discussion it was decided that Discount Tire would install a brand new set of tires as No Charge to me, including full road hazard warranty. They admitted that they should not have sold 4 year old tires to me but it does happen. It is usually never a problem because most tires get worn out in 3 or 4 years.

Just last summer I needed a new set of tires for my classic car that gets driven only about 500 miles per year. The old tires on the car were 18 years old but still looked like new. They probably had less than 10,000 actual road miles on them, but I was afraid to take them on any extended out of town drive. I again went to Discount Tire and told them I wanted a new set of "fresh dated coded tires". I explained the importance of fresh tires because they will not be worn out by the time they are 10 years old, and since I also pay extra for the road hazard warranty, I didn't want to have a shortened warranty due to old date coded tires. They said they totally understood and guaranteed only "fresh" tires would be installed. So I go and pick up the car and checked the date codes. Three of the five tires were over 18 months old according to the date codes. DUH. I made them locate 3 fresh tires and change them.

From now on I will always ask for fresh date coded tires and will check them to insure I get what I requested.

 

[JoeWras]

Gotta watch everyone these days.

Ultimately, all service is local.