outdoor outlet

[broadway]

The builder put two plastic covered electrical outlets boxes.

The problem is that all the outdoor extension cords I have cause the box cover to not latch in place which defeats the purpose of the plastic boxes.

What do I do?

The box I want to use is by the front door.

 

[nativenewenglander]

The outlet itself should be a GFI outlet, so if it gets wet it may trip and kill the power. Those big plastic covers must be code now as our electrician put one on the switch to an outside light, they are UGLY. I think you'll be fine without it shutting completely, I've never had one trip from rain landing on it.

 

[Rambler]

There is usually a cutout at the bottom, that you can cut out a spot with wire cutters, so that the box can be closed and the cord still passes thru. I'm not home now, or I'd take a pic and post it. But you should be able to find it easily enough. Contractors never seem to cut them out for you, but it isn't hard to do. It looks like just an indentation in the clear plastic portion of the box, the part that closes. Just nip out that indentation and you are good to go.

 

[braumeister]

You should be able to find a replacement cover at the local big box hardware store that will let you close it while running the extension cord out through a cutout in the bottom. Pretty common, really. I've done a number of them.

Depending on how thick and stiff your extension cord is, you may have to put a good crimp in it to get it to bend enough to feed out the bottom cutout, but I've always been able to do that.

 

[broadway]

Attached is a photo of what the covered box looks like.

 

[nativenewenglander]

There is usually a cutout at the bottom, that you can cut out a spot with wire cutters, so that the box can be closed and the cord still passes thru. I'm not home now, or I'd take a pic and post it. But you should be able to find it easily enough. Contractors never seem to cut them out for you, but it isn't hard to do. It looks like just an indentation in the clear plastic portion of the box, the part that closes. Just nip out that indentation and you are good to go.

I never thought of that, an excellent solution. A fine bladed coping saw would do it too. To think I thought I knew it all, I guess that was only when I was a teenager.

 

[Ronstar]

Attached is a photo of what the covered box looks like.

The receptacle needs to be flipped and then the cord will lead to the cutout that is built into the cover. Or you can cut another hole in the bottom at the other side.

Personally, I'd flip the receptacle.

 

[euro]

The outlet itself should be a GFI outlet, so if it gets wet it may trip and kill the power. Those big plastic covers must be code now as our electrician put one on the switch to an outside light, they are UGLY. I think you'll be fine without it shutting completely, I've never had one trip from rain landing on it.

+1

To the stickler in me, this is suboptimal, but to be honest, I have two such outlets ( front and back), and have yet to have a problem after 26 years of use.

 

[broadway]

The receptacle needs to be flipped and then the cord will lead to the cutout that is built into the cover. Or you can cut another hole in the bottom at the other side.

Personally, I'd flip the receptacle.

The receptacle? You mean the two electrical outlets?
If so, I would need to remove the plastic box which I don't know how to do. There are no screws holding it to the siding.

 

[CardsFan]

The receptacle needs to be flipped and then the cord will lead to the cutout that is built into the cover. Or you can cut another hole in the bottom at the other side.

Personally, I'd flip the receptacle.

+1

If this a new home you just moved into, I would call the builder and complain. It is not a difficult modification to make on your own, but D@MN, if an electrician can't install the cover right, what else did they miss?

 

[HFWR]

Looking at the photo, I see what appears to be a bendable tab to the left of the receptacle/outlet. I'd hazard a guess that access to the outlet, and possibly screws securing the box, are behind that plate.

 

[RockyMtn]

There is usually a cutout at the bottom, that you can cut out a spot with wire cutters, so that the box can be closed and the cord still passes thru. I'm not home now, or I'd take a pic and post it. But you should be able to find it easily enough. Contractors never seem to cut them out for you, but it isn't hard to do. It looks like just an indentation in the clear plastic portion of the box, the part that closes. Just nip out that indentation and you are good to go.

+1..mine were notched and I just knocked out with wire cutters. Box doesn't close completely but more than if I hadn't taken out the piece.

 

[Ronstar]

The receptacle? You mean the two electrical outlets?
If so, I would need to remove the plastic box which I don't know how to do. There are no screws holding it to the siding.

Yes the plastic box most likely has to be removed first. Then the receptacle cover. Under that, the receptacle (the 2 outlets) has screws at the 2 red circles (under the cover in this photo) that mount the receptacle to the electrical box. Those need to be unscrewed, the receptacle rotated 180° and screwed back to the electrical box. Do this with the power off.

I would call the builder back and have him fix this. This is a rookie mistake.

 

[broadway]

Yes the plastic box most likely has to be removed first. Then the receptacle cover. Under that, the receptacle (the 2 outlets) has screws at the 2 red circles (under the cover in this photo) that mount the receptacle to the electrical box. Those need to be unscrewed, the receptacle rotated 180° and screwed back to the electrical box. Do this with the power off.

I would call the builder back and have him fix this. This is a rookie mistake.

Unfortunately, this house is a 5-year old.

I am not sure how to remove the plastic box. Am afraid of breaking it. I will take a closer look at again tomorrow.

 

[broadway]

Looking at the photo, I see what appears to be a bendable tab to the left of the receptacle/outlet. I'd hazard a guess that access to the outlet, and possibly screws securing the box, are behind that plate.

I will take a closer look at that tab and see what is behind it.

 

[Ronstar]

Unfortunately, this house is a 5-year old.

I am not sure how to remove the plastic box. Am afraid of breaking it. I will take a closer look at again tomorrow.

This tab looks suspicious. Maybe the receptacle cover snaps on the plastic box using the tab, and the screws holding the plastic box are behind the cover

 

[Meadbh]

This is not quite the same fixture, but at the end, he cuts out the openings for the cord (at the bottom of the cover).

https://youtu.be/plPzdu99rp4

 

[Ronstar]

the tab in circled here:

 

[Hermit]

the tab in circled here:

That plastic cover around the receptacle likely bends just a bit to get the tab in the circle out of the slot. Then you can slide the plastic cover to the right a bit to remove it. Make sure you have the circuit breaker turned off and test the outlet with a lamp or something to make sure there is no electricity. If worse comes to worse, you can buy another cover at Home Depot for about $10 bucks but you should not have any problem. By the way, the latest code I believe requires a weatherproof GFCI outlet. If you want to be safest, that would be the way to go, but they are around $25. (Your GFCI might be on another outside outlet.)

How do I know all this stuff? You find a whole lot of stuff out when you build a house!

 

[street]

I'm sure there is a GFI installed in the circuit. That outlet doesn't have to have a GFI but it has to be protected by a GFI up stream/or before that outlet. That is code.

 

[Clone]

I am going to guess that there is a hinged cover that coves the screws that hold the outlet in place.



The tabs on the RH side may be a hinge where that cover rotates out. I would try to lift the cover using the half-circle knob on the LH side of the picture. Then you should be able to see the two screws that hold the outlet in place.

 

[Bamaman]

Extension cords are not really permanent wiring and really don't need to be plugged in all the time. Thankfully I don't have any such face plates outside.

And most circuits today have a GFCI plug at the start of the circuit--protecting all the sockets on that circuit. It's where the "home run" wire coming in from the box is. The trouble with putting all plugs on a GFCI is when a short or wiring problem pops off the GFCI. You cannot reset the circuit breaker in the box and you have to find the GFCI plug--often in other rooms even.

 

[splitwdw]

It doesn't look like the siding is flat where that receptacle is located so that may cause a problem if he tries to flip the receptacle.

 

[Hermit]

It doesn't look like the siding is flat where that receptacle is located so that may cause a problem if he tries to flip the receptacle.

The house is only 5 years old. The receptacle should be in a standard electrical box. When you take out the two screws that hold the cover in place the receptacle should be ready to flip over by just twisting it and the wires around.

 

[splitwdw]

The house is only 5 years old. The receptacle should be in a standard electrical box. When you take out the two screws that hold the cover in place the receptacle should be ready to flip over by just twisting it and the wires around.

But the receptacle is longer than it's wide. See the siding join (looks like hump in picture) just below the box. If the receptacle is turned on it's side in the position it's in, it will be on top of that join. Wouldn't he have to cut the siding to reposition the receptacle and to move it up. The receptacle may be on it's side because the siding is double 4". Hard to tell from the picture.