It's not about "fair", it's about who has the votes and how much money this will bring in to government coffers...sgeeeee said:Then we can talk about how fair it is.
It's not about "fair", it's about who has the votes and how much money this will bring in to government coffers...sgeeeee said:Then we can talk about how fair it is.
retire@40 said:Golly, if I'm a single guy making $1,000,000 a year, my effective tax rate goes down from 33% to a "fair" rate of 21%!!! And that's not even including social security and medicare taxes I won't have to pay anymore!!! What a savings!!!
But wait, if I'm making $100,000 a year, my rate is about 19%. Hmmmm, my effective tax rate goes from 20% to a somewhat "fair" tax of 19%. Ok, if you count social security tax and medicare tax savings, it really goes down a few more points, so I guess I'm a little more ahead.
Oh, if I only make $30,000 a year, my effective tax rate goes from 10% to "fair" tax of 15%. Ok, put in the ss and med tax savings and I'm just barely ahead with the...do I have to say it?...fair tax.
But what the heck, it looks like under a "fair" tax everyone, yes sir, everyone in the country rich or poor, tall or short, pays less, so why not?
Now, back to this magic lotion....it removes every kind of spot or stain.......
retire@40 said:1 and 2 are facts, but you come to a wrong conclusion.
Under a "fair" tax they would be just as bad if not worse. We've talked about this in previous threads on this topic during the last election.
sgeeeee said:Now, if you and I are going to be paying more, tell me who is paying less. If we are paying less, tell me who is paying more. Then we can talk about how fair it is.
sgeeeee said:The un-"Fair" tax calculator is useless. It fails to answer any questions about who pays more and who pays less. It hides the actual tax and costs of goods behind nonsense categories.
sgeeeee said:...If someone has done calculations to prove that the un-"Fair" tax is revenue neutral to the government, then they must know exactly who pays more and who pays less. Tell me who they are and how much more or how much less they pay. It's that simple. Without this analysis, how can anyone claim it is more fair?...
bpp said:I'll tell you one group who would pay less tax under the Fair Tax plan: US citizens abroad. Conversely, residents of the US would pay more.
Sounds fair to me.