Suspending Sales? Wow!

A LOT depends on what "book" they are using for those "blue book" numbers...........;)

Also, the "up to", DEFINITELY needs clarification..........


They said the Kelley Blue Book but I'm going to check it out . I'm still a little leery of buying a Toyota right now . Heck , I'm leery of buying any car right now !
 
With the news now of a class action lawsuits and a possible cover up, one wonders how far Toytoa as a company will fall.

Drive On: Cars, Trucks, and Daily Life - USATODAY.com

Unlike Tylenol (who was a victim as a company), Once the public sees cover up, that can mean a whole different thing.
 
If you are refering to the memo/paper pointing out that avoiding a recall a couple of years ago as a financial plus, that is hardly indicative of a cover up.
If the NHTSA was bribed by Toyota to not do their job, sure, string em up. If they played by the rules, but we aren't happy with the amount of influence they were able to leverage, update the rules.
But I have yet to see anything indicating a cover up.
And yes, this is different than the Tylenol issue for the above reasons.
I just don't see toyota being destroyed by this. Sure, they have been and will be hurt, but not nearly as much as some seem to think.
 
Should I be tempted ?

You should drive into the dealership as fast as possible. On second thought...
 
Doesn't the president of Toyota have to kill himself now for shaming his family and his country? Think he'll do it during his testimony in the States?
 
Doesn't the president of Toyota have to kill himself now for shaming his family and his country? Think he'll do it during his testimony in the States?

Tip: Do NOT show up in a corporate jet. :LOL:
 
I heard today that the Toyota 2009-2010 Venza is now on the list of recalled vehicles. I believe that is the car that W2R just bought. You need to go to Toyota's site and put your VIN in to see if your vehicle is recalled. Hopefully, W2R's car is not recalled because she has the special floor mats. Anyway, be safe W2R and all other Toyota car drivers.
 
Thanks! I went to the Toyota website, and typed in my VIN number, and it gave me the same information as before - - I am still in the clear. The only recall is for the floor mats, and my floor mats were installed by my dealer as an aftermarket extra. They are completely immovable.

I am SO ENJOYING my new car!! I simply cannot believe the level of luxury and technology in comparison with my old Solara, and I wish I had bought the Venza even earlier. The Smartkey is wonderful - - no more fumbling for keys with my hands full. I love driving it - - so much zip and a smooth running engine, and no rattles or noise at all. We drove up to Cabela's in Gonzales last weekend (maybe 100 miles round trip) and what a comfortable ride with the ranged climate control. Even the passenger seat has adjustable lumbar support (not true for Frank's Murano, and very nice).

The dual moonroofs are so nice and the Sirius radio is a lot of fun. The rear hatch opens and closes remotely (very handy at times), and it has plenty of cargo space. I even love stoplights these days, because I can discover and play with all the new technology while I am waiting. It will take 100 years for me to learn all the ins and outs of the non-essential but fun technology. This car makes me feel like the Queen of England with all the luxury in comparison with my Solara (Ok, maybe it doesn't take much to impress me! :2funny:). I didn't think I would want or care about the luxury aspect but I love it and wish I had not put off buying it for so long! :D
 
Doesn't the president of Toyota have to kill himself now for shaming his family and his country? Think he'll do it during his testimony in the States?

Isn't the termed called "hara-kari"?

Seriously, that thought crossed my mind too. Not during the testimony but say if Toyota really takes a big hit in the future. Who knows :blush:
 
This car makes me feel like the Queen of England with all the luxury in comparison with my Solara (Ok, maybe it doesn't take much to impress me! :2funny:). I didn't think I would want or care about the luxury aspect but I love it and wish I had not put off buying it for so long! :D

For me my Solara was the most luxurius car I ever owned . I did not have a car with air conditioning until I was almost 40 . I consider it luxury if the car is an automatic and has an AM/FM radio and starts easily .:)
 
For me my Solara was the most luxurius car I ever owned . I did not have a car with air conditioning until I was almost 40 . I consider it luxury if the car is an automatic and has an AM/FM radio .:)

Yeah, that was about all my Solara had, too! I was really amazed to see how much cars have improved since 2000, when I bought it.

I thought about my post after I posted it - - didn't mean to crow and I hope you didn't take it that way. But really, getting my new Venza has been a lot more fun than I thought it would be.
 
Yeah, that was about all my Solara had, too! I was really amazed to see how much cars have improved since 2000, when I bought it.

I thought about my post after I posted it - - didn't mean to crow and I hope you didn't take it that way. But really, getting my new Venza has been a lot more fun than I thought it would be.


No, I'm not offended . I enjoy listening to your non -stop Toyota Venza discussions . They must be one great car ! I love my Solara which was fully loaded when I bought it . It's been the best most reliable car I've owned . It's like a member of the family and I hate to offend it by just carelessly tossing it aside for someone new .:)
 
No, I'm not offended . I enjoy listening to your non -stop Toyota Venza discussions .

Thanks for your gracious response! :)

Moemg said:
They must be one great car ! I love my Solara which was fully loaded when I bought it . It's been the best most reliable car I've owned . It's like a member of the family and I hate to offend it by just carelessly tossing it aside for someone new .:)

After the Solara was discontinued, I put in a lot of time and effort in figuring out what I would want for my next car and doing the research on it. For me, the Venza was the "winner" and I enjoy it a lot. But it may not be the car for you. If/when you do decide to get a new car, I am sure the test drives will tell you a lot.
 
I am SO ENJOYING my new car!! I simply cannot believe the level of luxury and technology in comparison with my old Solara, and I wish I had bought the Venza even earlier. The Smartkey is wonderful - - no more fumbling for keys with my hands full. I love driving it - - so much zip and a smooth running engine, and no rattles or noise at all. We drove up to Cabela's in Gonzales last weekend (maybe 100 miles round trip) and what a comfortable ride with the ranged climate control. Even the passenger seat has adjustable lumbar support (not true for Frank's Murano, and very nice).

The dual moonroofs are so nice and the Sirius radio is a lot of fun. The rear hatch opens and closes remotely (very handy at times), and it has plenty of cargo space. :D

I am impressed with the level of luxury and technology. I have never had a car that has had any of those features. I have never even had heated seats. I am glad that you are enjoying it so much.
 
I am impressed with the level of luxury and technology. I have never had a car that has had any of those features. I have never even had heated seats. I am glad that you are enjoying it so much.

That reminds me, I'll need to try turning on the heated seats at least once before summer arrives!! :D Yes, I am really having so much fun with it.
 
I did not have a car with air conditioning until I was almost 40.

I remember the cars we had in the 70s. Man, the A/Cs in our cars back then were a joke compared to current car ACs. New car ACs will freeze your buns. And the A/C back then was an option, same as FM radios (only the AM radio was standard). Do they even offer cars without A/C these days?

Anyway, I am impressed that you did not have A/C in cars until 40. Surely, you were not living in Florida then. Being here in the Southwest with its "dry heat", I would not live much longer past 40 if I did not have A/C in my car. It was different when I was younger. Well, I was younger then, you know?
 
Anyway, I am impressed that you did not have A/C in cars until 40. Surely, you were not living in Florida then. Being here in the Southwest with its "dry heat", I would not live much longer past 40 if I did not have A/C in my car. It was different when I was younger. Well, I was younger then, you know?


I was living in new Jersey at the time and driving a Ford Escort (no Ac, Am radio and roll down windows ). I then bought a nissan station wagon with air that was a nice car but I'm not the station wagon type so I traded it for a GEO Storm. I am pretty thrifty and not a car person so luxury in a car is nice but it's not my thing . I guess I fit "The Millionaire next door " profile to a T .
 
I am impressed with the level of luxury and technology. I have never had a car that has had any of those features. I have never even had heated seats. I am glad that you are enjoying it so much.


Since they have heated seats why don't they invent cooling seats for the south ?
 
I guess I fit "The Millionaire next door " profile to a T .

I have not read that book, only heard about it.

So, the "Millionaire next door" is allowed to indulge in luxurious housing, but not transportation? :LOL:
 
If I wasn't so cheap . This would be my car ! I just love the look of it . Since it has cooled seats do you think it could be a medical deduction for menopause ?
 

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Here is what I think is up with the FBI raid: they are looking for documents that disclose a cover-up. Recently I read that a US Toyota Corporate counsel left the firm because requested pertinant requested records were withheld during litigation. If an attorney became aware of that fact and did not advise the court he could loose his licence.

The last shoe has not dropped on these safety issues.
 
Yes, because their is a chance you may actually make money on housing !:)

Sure, that makes sense. :greetings10:

Now, since one never expects to make money on an RV, it would be more like transportation, although it is also dwelling. Yes? :)

As my wife, the "Great Frugal One" whom I have been dragging to RV dealers, does not want to splurge on a new RV, not even a modest Sprinter class C, I am limiting myself to looking at used gasoline class Cs. I want nice, nice for low $, hence have not taken the plunge. But I still have time to shop as we do not know when we can travel. Shopping can be a lot of fun as one examines all possibilities. The moment one writes a check, heck he is STUCK!

So, back on the "millionaire next door" club, my action would be met with head nodding approvals, yes?

But, but, but, when does our millionaire realize that she may, just might, have a bit too much to take with her, and have to unload some? When is that moment, pray tell, that one can splurge and throw caution to the wind? Not on the death bed, as that would be of course too late.

Oh, please speak up, oh old wise ones in this forum...
 
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