Using an iPad2 with a wireless keyboard for travel?

Why wouldn't you read Kindle books on the free Kindle app. for iPad?
 
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Why wouldn't you read Kindle books on the free Kindle app. for iPad?

I decided to take a route that would let me maintain a single library of books without regard to which reading app I wanted to use, basically. If I kept a Kindle library, and an iBooks library, and my old Stanza library, I'm pretty sure I'd wind up with duplicate purchases eventually.

I have several hundred other books in ePub format, many of which have formatting that doesn't convert well to the MOBI format the Kindle software and hardware uses. Since I was looking at having to convert books either way, I went with converting to the format for the book reader app I liked best, which was Stanza 3.1 on my first generation iPod Touch, and iBooks on the iPad 2.

(Pardon the typos. I've got a bad case of cats right now.)
 
Nords,

I was in an airport executive lounge and saw that a lady had both a Kindle and a Kindle Fire - she said that she liked the Kindle with the e-ink for e-reading as when she was outside, the glare made it difficult to read on the regular screen (which I would assume is like the iPad and other computer screens. So, if you truly are looking for an e-reader, the e-ink on the Kindle doesn't suffer from a screen glare problem when in a bright environment.

For lightweight computers, I was using my ASUS eee PC, but I've not gotten around to changing the CMOS battery - it was very lightweight - *however*, due to some other issues with my previous laptop, I bought a Toshiba Ultrabook - ummm, this is a *very* lightweight PC and it amazed my colleagues----I wanted something lightweight for travel that also had a true keyboard. It doesn't have a CD/DVD drive, but has many USB ports. I kept the Windows OS.

For truly odd, I had another colleague who bought the MacBook Air for the hardware and then erased the iOS and replaced it with Windows and other associated Microsoft stuff :) The razzing he got from his friends was understanding in one sense, however, this guy is a software expert in Windows and MS OS, so he made his own solution......

I've spoken with many people with iPads - most of them like it, except for those who need keyboards.....looks like you have to pay for your software more so than on some of the other OS platforms as well. My only foray into Apple products was purchasing a used iPod touch which needs constant re-charging - perhaps that's why it was being sold refurbed......sigh.
 
When I got my Ipad 2, I got a logitech fold-up keyboard. I liked the fact that it unfolds to a full-size keyboard. However, I have rarely used it. I don't type that much and just use the keyboard on the Ipad.
 
With the new IPad soon to be released how does Apple move the older ones? I am thinking about a 2 or a 3.
 
With the new IPad soon to be released how does Apple move the older ones? I am thinking about a 2 or a 3.

Getting an older Ipad is a good idea, until new versions are released and the older ones are no longer supported. I can't download the latest IOS6 on my iPad 1. Its only a matter of time before I find that the cool apps can't run on the iPad 1.
 
I was in an airport executive lounge and saw that a lady had both a Kindle and a Kindle Fire - she said that she liked the Kindle with the e-ink for e-reading as when she was outside, the glare made it difficult to read on the regular screen (which I would assume is like the iPad and other computer screens. So, if you truly are looking for an e-reader, the e-ink on the Kindle doesn't suffer from a screen glare problem when in a bright environment.
I've never used a Nook or even a laptop outdoors, so I don't think I'm going to have to worry about sunlight on an LCD screen.

But we share another concern-- battery life. If an iPad2 is a couple years old, I don't know how to tell whether or not the battery is any good. But even when my daughter starts kvetching about the battery life on her Macbook, it turns out that it's still hours vice my laptop's minutes.

I just discovered another "reason" to buy an iPad: Fidelity's scan deposit system only works on iPads & smartphones, not on regular scanners. The crucial difference between Fidelity and every other online deposit system is that Fidelity will accept deposits up to $10K. The other banks & credit unions only go up to $5K, so even if Dad's long-term care check is $5001 I have to put it in the snail mail.

Other questions for you Apple disciples:
(1) What amount of RAM do you really prefer for an iPad? I know there's a minimum that sucks, but what's the "Goldilocks" amount?
(2) Is it worth my time to go down to the Apple store to [-]fight my way through the iPhone5 crowds[/-] look at refurbed iPad2s? Or should I stick to my Craigslist plan with the risk of buying an iPad2 with a dying battery?
 
1. RAM is the same for each model of iPad. All iPad 1s have the same amount, iPad 2s probably have more, and iPad 3s have more still.

If you're talking about local storage, the options are 16 GB, 32 GB and 64 GB.

Depends on what you expect to store. Lot of audio, video and photos? Go for at least 32 GB. You can of course subscribe to streaming video services like Netflix or Hulu or Amazon Prime, which won't take up any local storage space.

It would take a long time to accumulate enough word processing files to really push 16 GB (assuming you don't have a lot of multimedia content locally).

2. What kind of price difference are you seeing between refurbs and Craigslist? I don't know if refurbs have at least a 90-day warranty? They are reputedly in great condition, generally with no visible blemishes.


Also be aware that Apple is rumored to be coming out with an iPad Mini this month, which would be 7.85 inches. The resolution is expected to be the same as iPad 2 (but not the Retina Display of iPad 3) but with a smaller screen, resulting in a lighter form factor.

The smaller size would be more portable and the lighter model is probably better suited for bedside reading.

Of course the tradeoff is a smaller display, with text possibly not being as easy to read for older people.

All kinds of speculation about how much it would be, from $249 to $399. There are also rumors that they'd stop manufacturing new iPad 2s, to streamline the lineup.

Even rumors of a new flagship to replace the iPad 3 as well.
 
I have just from upgraded my iPad1 which I had owned for 2 1/2 years. I never noticed that the battery was going bad - didn't notice any battery problems at all, or any other type of degradation. And I also had recently upgraded to iOS 5.1.1 on it, so it had been supported the whole time. No, iOS 6 wont run on it, but I did get several OS revisions. It shipped with iOS 3, upgraded to iOS 4 a year later, and the iOS 5 the next year. Most apps would run on it.

There was nothing wrong with it, I just wanted some new features. And, of course, my new iPad3 is faster. DH has inherited the iPad1 now. DH also has an ancient iPod Touch of mine that still works just fine. It mostly functions as our alarm clock now, LOL! But he also uses it as a music player.

So maybe the lifetime on these things is very good?

I'm not sure about the optimal memory. I have a 64GB iPad, but I noticed that I didn't get close to half full in terms of storage. Maybe not even much past 1/4, and most of it was my extensive music collection.
 
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That's a good amount of use, 2.5 years.

Of course if you amortize it, you paid $700 or $829 (depending on whether you got the 3G model).

So about $300-330 per year. May not be the best LBYM expenditure.

Of course people expect regular computers to last longer. Mobile devices though, it's a moving target with the power increasing appreciably every year.

Apple will probably provide 2 or 3 OS updates and then orphan a line of mobile devices. Even if you can't upgrade to the latest software, it's still perfectly useable.

I'd ask about how long the batteries are rated for. There are probably services which will swap out batteries? Or it may be that if you get AppleCare and your battery dies, they may swap it for a new unit, which may be a newer model.
 
That's a good amount of use, 2.5 years.
That's not the end of it's life. It now has a new owner, and he'll probably use it for several more years.

So about $300-330 per year. May not be the best LBYM expenditure.
Are you serious? I've paid more than that for a case or two of wine, LOL! It's all about priorities and whether you can afford what you want.
 
So about $300-330 per year. May not be the best LBYM expenditure.

So less than a dollar a day. Since I use it 2-4 hours a day, it's a pretty good deal! Cable TV is about $3 a day and it does not seem to provide as much enjoyment.
 
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Completely agree. But you can get a laptop or netbook in the same price range and they may last longer as far as the processor being current.

Build quality is probably dicey as you typically get a plastic case that might not fit tightly everywhere.
 
Other questions for you Apple disciples:
(1) What amount of RAM do you really prefer for an iPad? I know there's a minimum that sucks, but what's the "Goldilocks" amount?
(2) Is it worth my time to go down to the Apple store to fight my way through the iPhone5 crowds look at refurbed iPad2s? Or should I stick to my Craigslist plan with the risk of buying an iPad2 with a dying battery?

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If you listen to alot of music and plan on storing alot of books and PDFs I would opt for the 32 but a 16 should be fine for your needs as you stated earlier.(I use an ipad2 16Gig wifi)
I would recommend the apple refurb store. At the least, you know what you are getting.
 
The crucial difference between Fidelity and every other online deposit system is that Fidelity will accept deposits up to $10K. The other banks & credit unions only go up to $5K

FWIW, USAA bank accepts up to $10K. I just did that a week or two ago.
 
It is morning here, maybe my bifocals need adjusting, but when a looked at the Apple store offerings earlier a new IPad 2 cost less than the same unit refurbished. I may have looked as they were adjusting prices.
 
FWIW, USAA bank accepts up to $10K. I just did that a week or two ago.
Right now the website says "This feature is not available to you", and it's probably because we don't have a checking account there. I'm going to have to sign Dad up for a USAA checking account before I can get more info, but it looks like USAA limits the amount of scan deposits by user behavior/trust.

I'm going to wait for them to finish fixing the POD/TOD changes I asked them to make on his CDs, and then sign up for checking, and then find out how much we can deposit.

If you listen to alot of music and plan on storing alot of books and PDFs I would opt for the 32 but a 16 should be fine for your needs as you stated earlier.(I use an ipad2 16Gig wifi)
I would recommend the apple refurb store. At the least, you know what you are getting.
I have just from upgraded my iPad1 which I had owned for 2 1/2 years. I never noticed that the battery was going bad - didn't notice any battery problems at all, or any other type of degradation. I'm not sure about the optimal memory. I have a 64GB iPad, but I noticed that I didn't get close to half full in terms of storage. Maybe not even much past 1/4, and most of it was my extensive music collection.
1. RAM is the same for each model of iPad.
If you're talking about local storage, the options are 16 GB, 32 GB and 64 GB.
It would take a long time to accumulate enough word processing files to really push 16 GB (assuming you don't have a lot of multimedia content locally).
I was talking both RAM and data memory, but if all models of the iPad2 have the same amount of RAM then I guess my preference doesn't matter. As for data, it looks like 16GB will be more than enough. On this last trip I was under 500KB of files that I "needed", and I only generated another 200KB. I don't watch much video or movies, so that's not a problem either.

2. What kind of price difference are you seeing between refurbs and Craigslist? I don't know if refurbs have at least a 90-day warranty? They are reputedly in great condition, generally with no visible blemishes.
I noticed some price differences between 16GB and 64GB, but now I know what I want. If battery life is not a problem either then that makes Craigslist a little safer. I'll have to do more research.

Also be aware that Apple is rumored to be coming out with an iPad Mini this month, which would be 7.85 inches. The resolution is expected to be the same as iPad 2 (but not the Retina Display of iPad 3) but with a smaller screen, resulting in a lighter form factor.
The smaller size would be more portable and the lighter model is probably better suited for bedside reading.
Of course the tradeoff is a smaller display, with text possibly not being as easy to read for older people.
Presbyopia is the main problem here. I don't enjoy trying to read on my Nook (even with reading glasses) because I'm spending more time pushing "next page" than I am reading the 100 words or so that fit on the screen. It'd be even more annoying if I was editing a document, scrolling & jumping around and moving text blocks.

So... 16GB iPad2 with WiFi (no 3G necessary), either Craigslist or refurb. Here we go:
Apple IPAD2 16 GB WIFI
ipad2 32g at&t. wifi cherry condition
16GB Wifi White Ipad 2
Ipad2 ($260, but not much info)
Maybe those include a case, maybe not.

And the Apple store:
Refurbished iPad 2 with Wi-Fi 16GB - White (2nd Gen.) - Apple Store (U.S.)
about $340 in stock. Looks like everyone's pricing right up there at the Apple store number.
 
the iPad2 probably came with 16G, 32G or 64G option, just like the iPad1 and iPad3 did. It's just that you can only buy a 16G iPad2 from Apple now, but you should be able to find other memory sizes on Craig's list or wherever.
 
Nord's IPad is gone...

I called Apple and learned that the refurb inventory is posted overnight. The lady I spoke to said they are there when she comes to work, 6 am Central time.
 
I think I got a good deal. It's nice to win one on Craigslist for a change.

Here's the ad that my spouse spotted this morning (posted 2 AM this morning, cut & pasted with verbatim grammar, spelling, and upper/lower case):
ipad 2 16gb for sale - $300
ITEM IS IN GREAT SHAPE. WIFI ONLY BUT U CAN UPGRADE TO GET YOUR OWN SERVICE
BEST OFFER OKAY

Hmm, clearly a hard-nosed negotiator. I e-mailed my phone number and indicated that when she called I'd drop everything and come running. She finally called back in the late afternoon and turned out to be the chatty type who has to tell you about her day for 10 minutes before she's ready to do business. I was supposed to sit there and listen. She finally said "I have a lot of e-mails about this iPad. Is $300 a good price?" I told her I'd have to see it before I could decide. I didn't mention that the Apple store had reconditioned iPads for $319 and that hers was the second-cheapest one on Craigslist. She had decided that $300 was the right price and she wasn't going to change her mind.

My usual Craigslist seller involves a 40-minute drive across the island, maybe the item resembles the photo, and perhaps they have the box too. Missing parts are common. Everything else is a shrug or a blank stare. Sometimes they want to talk but usually they're in the middle of moving and everything is chaos.

This time I only had to drive two miles to meet her at a parking lot. She was in a black Cadillac Escalade, running the A/C and the engine with her window down while we were talking. She seemed too overweight to be bothered with getting out of the vehicle, so she just passed things out to me through the driver's window. She was in a hurry to meet her friends at the movie theater but I still got the entire blow-by-blow history of the iPad, from her driving into the parking lot of the military exchange store until she decided to sell it. She spent $620 for it last August. It's the black case and it's pristine. She also gave me the box with its original wrapping, the "old" charger & cable, the original sales receipt, all the documentation, the Apple logo decals, and even the little paper-clip tool to pop open the 3G SIM tray. She bought the transferable two-year extended warranty for $99, she bought the black leather case for $35. She watched a couple movies on it and checked her e-mail once, but she hadn't used it "for a few months". I clicked the home button and tried the icons, and its WiFi antenna managed to find a couple routers near the parking lot. It seemed fine. She said it didn't have anything saved on it and she'd upgraded to an iPad3. As far as she was concerned, the iPad2 was yesterday's news and the iPad3 was her new shiny toy. I have no idea why she bought the iPad2 in the first place, let alone the iPad3. Of course I can't even tell that it was her iPad2 but she had the unlock code for it.

I managed not to wag my tail and I kept the goofy grin off my face, while reluctantly agreeing that it was worth $300. She rolled up her window as soon as I handed over the cash, and she was out of the parking lot before I even got back to my car.

So now I'm tweaking the settings, downloading software, and charging it up. I'm looking forward to reading one of my eBooks on it tonight, and tomorrow I'm going keyboard testing.
 
It's early days, but I think I'm going to get along just fine with this iPad2. I still need to go keyboard/case shopping.

The previous owner put almost nothing on it, so it's nearly a blank slate. It's also running iOS4.3.3, so this is probably a good time to make an upgrade decision. From the iOS update site (iOS: How to update your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch) it looks like I'm going to have to plug this iPad into my PC and make a backup using iTunes. I don't actually have anything on the iPadthat I care to back up, but hey, that's what the website suggests doing. Maybe it backs up serial numbers or WiFi settings or something else.

First, is there any reason to upgrade to a later OS? It seems to make sense since apps will not necessarily be backwards compatible to iOS4, but I'd hate to apply PC logic to Apple gear.

If the first answer is "Yes", then do I want iOS5 or iOS6? Does either carry a performance penalty on an iPad2's hardware?

If the second answer is iOS6, do I have to upgrade to iOS5 first and then iOS6, or can I make just one great leap forward?

Anything else I should watch out for during this upgrade? I haven't actually found the instructions for going from iOS4 to 5 yet, but I haven't looked very hard.

FWIW, USAA bank accepts up to $10K. I just did that a week or two ago.
Yesterday I used Fidelity's iPad app to deposit Dad's long-term care check, and it deposited just as if it was an electronic funds transfer. He's good to go for another month!
 
You may not be offered both iOS 5 or iOS 6, maybe just the latter.

iOS 5 gets you iCloud, so you can back up to online and not have to connect to the pc.

Yes restoring from backup will preserve your apps and system settings like wifi. Some apps may preserve app-specific settings. It will copy over the music you had before. Probably photos and videos too.

iCloud is a nice upgrade for not having to connect to PC though if you do, you can sync over your bookmarks for instance.

With iOS 6 you get a different Maps app, which no longer use google mapping data. This has stirred controversy as apple's mapping data isn't as good. You also lose street view, which is slick on iPad. (So is google Earth)
 
Yes, you want iTunes. Backing up to the PC is handy. It's also a good way to share stuff with your PC.

I'm thinking you'll have the option to upgrade to OS 5.1.1 - that's a good choice.

iOS 5.1.1 ran fine on my iPad1, so you shouldn't have performance issues.
 
Well I set my iPad 3 to back up to iCloud and didn't have a problem upgrading it from iOS5 to iOS6.

It doesn't take up much of the free 5 GB space you have on your iCloud account.

I just got my iPhone 5 and restored my iPhone 4 back up which was local. But set my iPhone 5 to back up to iCloud as well.

For both, I set to sync via Wifi. I sync every day, whether app. updates or new podcasts. I've been connecting but I also have chargers throughout the house. So I think when it's connected to a power source, it will sync any new content.
 
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