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01-16-2020, 01:00 PM
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I wouldn't say that is generational. In my experience, just about everyone prefers to make their own mistakes.
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01-16-2020, 01:05 PM
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#82
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gone traveling
Join Date: Sep 2019
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I don’t blame seniors for being slow to change, dismissive and irrational. They weren’t taught to know any better. And they pass this on to their progeny. It’s self fulfilling. That’s why this perception of seniors endures
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01-16-2020, 01:08 PM
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#83
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Administrator
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Chicagoland
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Seniors have no monopoly on dismissive and irrational. If anything, those two attributes are widely and quite equitably distributed.
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01-16-2020, 01:16 PM
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#84
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 6,096
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gumby
I wouldn't say that is generational. In my experience, just about everyone prefers to make their own mistakes.
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It is generational in the sense that every generation (in a general sense) will complain about the preceding generation and tends to place the blame there and not learn lessons very well. And eventually every generation will be found irrelevant by a subsequent generation who will not see them as worth learning from. And the learning on both the "good" side and the "bad" sine.
In truth, every generation has issues, as we are biased. For example, the WWII "greatest generation" also had legal prejudice and racism in place much more rampant than today (one reason I disagree with an earlier poster than racism is worse today).
No generation is "irrelevant", in my view, as there are lessons to be learned from all of them, if one chooses to pay attention.
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01-16-2020, 02:17 PM
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#85
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 35,712
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Most of those of us who make it to the SS and Medicare age realize that we survive so far, bodily as well as financially, by owing it to luck as much as to skills.
And not having much time left, we do not want to push our luck. And that's what experience is for, so that we can make new mistakes and not repeat old ones, from which we may not walk away in case our luck runs out this time.
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01-16-2020, 03:00 PM
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#86
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 17,773
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Mr Shakespeare, in Hamlet:
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Let Hercules himself do what he may,
The cat will mew and dog will have his day.
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Mr Armstrong, in What a Wonderful World:
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… I hear babies cry,
I watch them grow,
They'll learn much more,
Than I'll ever know.…
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If we were ever relevant, good for us. If we feel relevant no longer for whatever reason, we can perhaps enjoy still being along for the ride....
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01-17-2020, 03:45 AM
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#87
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Dec 2008
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This would be a good rebuttal to some on-line accusation of "fading into irrelevancy." I love this post.
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Originally Posted by Bestwifeever
If we were ever relevant, good for us. If we feel relevant no longer for whatever reason, we can perhaps enjoy still being along for the ride....
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Even a blind clock finds an acorn twice a day.
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01-17-2020, 09:57 AM
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#88
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 106
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I thought I was getting irrelevant until my 21 year old grandson who will graduate with a accounting degree asked me to help him with his 401k.
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What is meant when people say an old person "becomes irrelevant"?
01-17-2020, 10:52 AM
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#89
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: NC Triangle
Posts: 5,807
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What is meant when people say an old person "becomes irrelevant"?
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Originally Posted by 14thMed
I thought I was getting irrelevant until my 21 year old grandson who will graduate with a accounting degree asked me to help him with his 401k.
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I bet you’re VERY relevant there, as are many/most e-r.org members.
Just wait till it’s time to explain health insurance, social security/pensions... (actually, those are items about which I’m in need of advice from “irrelevant” experienced people too).
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01-17-2020, 02:18 PM
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#90
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
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Location: Tampa
Posts: 11,197
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 14thMed
I thought I was getting irrelevant until my 21 year old grandson who will graduate with a accounting degree asked me to help him with his 401k.
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Nice post.
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01-17-2020, 02:48 PM
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#91
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 2,908
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01-20-2020, 07:44 PM
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#92
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Adelaide, Australia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by audreyh1
Dang, never realized Omar Sharif was in that.
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aka Cairo Fred
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01-20-2020, 07:45 PM
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#93
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: May 2011
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01-20-2020, 08:53 PM
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#94
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Feb 2007
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As far as the flow of life is concerned I ceased being relevant once I did my final DNA transfer. As to relevance of my acts and deeds I remember something or other about an Ozymandias dude.
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01-21-2020, 10:00 AM
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#95
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gone traveling
Join Date: Sep 2019
Posts: 249
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ejman
As far as the flow of life is concerned I ceased being relevant once I did my final DNA transfer. As to relevance of my acts and deeds I remember something or other about an Ozymandias dude.
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+10
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01-24-2020, 04:04 PM
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Madison/Knoxville
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It means “I’m wet behind the ears and not aware that I will be old, too, someday”
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01-24-2020, 04:30 PM
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#97
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Confused about dryer sheets
Join Date: Jan 2020
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I think when someone says an old person becomes irrelevant:
1.If you want to know what they meant, you should just ask them,
2.You should decide for yourself if the comment is irrelevant, and
3.When a general negative comment is made about a group of people, you can think of the comment as being exclusionary, anti-diverse, and prejudiced, rather than a comment that values diversity and people as individuals.
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01-24-2020, 04:30 PM
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#98
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Kula
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As I approach 70, more and more internet surveys are telling me I'm too old to participate.
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01-24-2020, 04:32 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Conroe, Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by morriss003
As I approach 70, more and more internet surveys are telling me I'm too old to participate.
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It's the internet....you can be ANY age!
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01-24-2020, 05:03 PM
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#100
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Spending the Kids Inheritance and living in Chicago
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Midpack
That’s why is included the word some. Wage inequality, partisanship, racism, sexism, national debt, climate change - but I won’t belabor the ways things are worse. My only point was seeing Boomers in a negative connotation shouldn’t come as a surprise.
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racism, I think is better, heck we elected a Black president, no way that was going to happen in 1965.
I could go on and on, but frankly I'm irrelevant.
Then one thing I do believe is worse is climate, but it is a cumulative effect of all of humanity over the past, London back in 1700 was black with soot from burning coal everywhere. Can't simply blame it all on Boomers.
Every young generation blames the older ones, and the older ones think the young fry don't know enough...
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