Cable Company Bait and Switch

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I'm livid at the moment. After carefully negotiating a "triple play" package with a major phone/cable company last month--and getting a confirmation of all agreed upon charges in writing--I received my first bill. The bill does not AT ALL reflect the agreed upon package price. 1.5 hours on the phone to the company today and all I am told is that "the sales rep was wrong; we will make sure we will train our reps better in the future."

I will not pay a bill for something I did not agree to. What can I do? A quick check on the internet confirms that this company frequently uses bait and switch tactics.
 
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You can tell them to return to uninstall everything, cancel the outstanding invoice, and file a complaint with your state Attorney General.
 
I would be upset also.

Do you have anything in writing?

You have limited choices:
- bundle everything up and return it, in the meantime secure new service providers. That can be tricky for cable and internet, depending on your area and if you have other options.
- Get on the phone with customer service - be willing to wait. Insist on escalating it to a senior person. The next point is key - be willing to cancel all service (see previous point) and let them know that. Eventually, if you're lucky, you'll be switched to someone who has the authority to make an equivalent deal or offer a refund. Do not try this in a brick and mortar office - there is no-one with authority to make a deal working there.
- pay the bill and chalk it up to craptastic customer relations.

If you decide to escalate it by phone have the following: pen/paper (for recording names), a charger for your cell phone, snacks, bathroom access, and a place you can shout if necessary without disturbing anyone.

When I called with the specific intent of canceling video service it took over 90 minutes before I was switched to someone who could actually issue the cancellation order. Two reps offered crappy alternative offers prior to getting to this person. This person was able to "magically" come up with an offer that I accepted and I ended up not cancelling. Being determined to cancel made it easier to sit through the non-offers that wasted my time, because my intent was to cancel, not improve my deal.
 
Thanks rodi. I did escalate it to the so-called "loyalty department" where I was told there was no such package as that offered to me: that the sales rep must have been mistaken. I asked for the highest level supervisor and was told she would call me in 48 hours. She has not called me. And yes I do have the promised package in writing. But now I'm told the sales rep was merely mistaken.

To cancel and move to the only other competitor will entail installation charges and the whole miserable issue once again. That company is even worse. Thus I am frustrated beyond measure with having been forced into scam with no options.
 
I purposely did not name the company, unsure whether my post would get yanked. It is not Comcast.
 
Most cable TV co's have a " Franchise agreement " with the city / county. If this is the case, and you have the offer in writing, you may be able to cause then enormous regulatory grief, so much, that a logical thinking manager would honor the terms, but being a cable tv company, logical thinking might not apply :rolleyes:
 
I've found that they will stonewall you until you say "cancel my service". Then you go to a customer retention specialist who will actually do something. When I switched to ATT a year ago, they promised one price verbally, but when I went on line to review my next bill, it was more. So I called and was told it would take 30 days to correct the error. Since the installer had not been out yet, I asked to simply forget the whole thing. Like magic, the original rep called to say it was all fixed, which it was. One year later, the special rate expired and I got no offer of relief until I cancelled the service.
 
Thanks rodi. I did escalate it to the so-called "loyalty department" where I was told there was no such package as that offered to me: that the sales rep must have been mistaken. I asked for the highest level supervisor and was told she would call me in 48 hours. She has not called me. And yes I do have the promised package in writing. But now I'm told the sales rep was merely mistaken.

To cancel and move to the only other competitor will entail installation charges and the whole miserable issue once again. That company is even worse. Thus I am frustrated beyond measure with having been forced into scam with no options.

I think the frustration and/or tactics of the companies are why many here choose to cut the cord when we can. At least we don't feel captive to the ever increasing rates or confusing charges.
 
Since it wasn't comcast - I assume it's Time Warner. They're the two biggest players.
 
The first thing you need to know is that every cable company has crap service... also the dish companies....

Every year (and sometimes not even a year) prices go up... I originally went to with Dish and was paying $32 per month.... it was a small package, but had HD.... then the price went up.... then I found out that package went away and they moved me to another that was higher... went to the mid $40s... then the $50... then almost $70!!!

I complained and they are still giving me a $15 per month credit, but that will go away soon... OH, and the rate magically went up $5 per month just after I agreed to the $15 per month credit...


I only look at the OTA channels and maybe 5 to 10 other channels.... and if they cost me a big number I would do without some of them.... I wish I could be a cable cutter... cannot wait for the time to come that will allow me to do so... might have to look at Netflix or Hula to see if I can see 80% of what I watch for cheaper...
 
I'm livid at the moment. After carefully negotiating a "triple play" package with a major phone/cable company last month--and getting a confirmation of all agreed upon charges in writing--I received my first bill. The bill does not AT ALL reflect the agreed upon package price. 1.5 hours on the phone to the company today and all I am told is that "the sales rep was wrong; we will make sure we will train our reps better in the future."

I will not pay a bill for something I did not agree to. What can I do? A quick check on the internet confirms that this company frequently uses bait and switch tactics.

I would call them back and tell them that their choice is to either conform to the terms that they agreed to in writing or if they are not willing to do so then there was obviously not a meeting of the minds and there was no contract and you will leave their stuff on the curb for them to pick up.

Then file complaints with the BBB and any relevant state authorities that license them in your state and provide your documentation.
 
Sorry, none of the guessers win. The company is Centurylink.
I have had my landline phone service, which I want to retain, with them since 1988. They had a different name then, but talk about loyalty!
When I moved into my new place recently it came with a satellite dish. Centurylink partners with DirectTV, so I went that route rather than Comcast. In my experience, Comcast is equally horrible.
I really want all three: internet, landline phone, and TV. At this point I have so little energy to try to negotiate elsewhere for these things. But I do understand that the only way to get any action is to threaten to cancel. On the other hand, I did this once awhile back with Comcast--and they said, well ok then! We will cancel you. In short, it didn't work and caused more headaches than not.
 
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I am indeed going to pursue this and I appreciate the advice. I will call Centurylink back tomorrow and prepare for another 1-2 hours of bull****. I just checked out the MN Attorney General site and will also start there. This is clearly a bait and switch.
 
Where I live, comcast and verizon fios only offer "triple plays". All I want is an ordinary single play consisting of internet. So I stay with my old Verizon DSL. I supplement my entertainment with an antenna and a Roku device. Still, I have to pay about $75 per month because I have to have phone service with the DSL.
 
I'd cancel your cable TV and land line and just keep internet. You will save money and it's a lot simpler. I did that over a year ago and now that I can't watch stuff like "Gold Rush", "The Kardasians", "Duck Dynasty", "Housewives of wherever" I feel like my brain has had an enema and I feel so much better.
 
I'd cancel your cable TV and land line and just keep internet. You will save money and it's a lot simpler...

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All you really need is a high-bandwidth connection to the internet. If you really think you need a landline phone, Google: 'obi google voice.' For TV, start with an antenna and Netflix; then Google: 'cut the cord' for the myriad sub-$20 options available if you REALLY need to see SportsCenter, MTV, and/or Duck Dynasty. Then sit back and enjoy your new life, free from the mind-numbing tyranny of cable companies and their ridiculous pricing/bundling/DVR rental/bait-and-switch contract schemes.
 
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All you really need is a high-bandwidth connection to the internet. If you really think you need a landline phone, Google: 'obi google voice.' For TV, start with an antenna and Netflix; then Google: 'cut the cord' for the myriad sub-$20 options available if you REALLY need to see SportsCenter, MTV, and/or Duck Dynasty. Then sit back and enjoy your new life, free from the mind-numbing tyranny of cable companies and their ridiculous pricing/bundling/DVR rental/bait-and-switch contract schemes.

It is sometimes not that simple. We have Comcast and had a triple play at a good price for a year. We didn't need or want the landline or most of the pay movie channels but triple play with the pay movie channels was cheaper than an option that just had TV and internet.

Well the bill just went up about $30 a month since the year is over. We called and the best they will do is reduce it about $13 a month (so still up $17) if we agree to a 2 year contract.

We can go down to just internet but when we do that our internet charge goes up and we are then at about $95 a month! Where I live getting antenna service is difficult (most don't work unless I get an expensive one for the attic which might work).

I actually don't even care about the broadcast TV but life would not be worth living if my 91 year old mother visited and she couldn't get ABC, NBC and CBS which are the only channels she wants to watch.

So we can pay extra to the cable company just to get basic channels. Sigh.

The only channels I care about I get on Sling TV which isn't that expensive..But, there is no DVR capability. Some shows you can watch if they aired in the last 3 days but that is it. I usually watch TV only when using the treadmill so I like to DVR stuff that I can watch while on the treadmill.

So, to get the channels I like (mostly HGTV and a few others) I have to subcribe to Sling TV but give up having a DVR which is a big issue for me.

So just to have basic cable TV on one TV (for my mom), internet and Sling TV I will have to spend about $130 a month. That does save me about $100 a month below what I'm paying now but I won't have DVR any more.

And the OP is right. There is very little recourse and so far they aren't that upset about us cancelling any of the TV stuff since I can't really cancel the internet service and they charge an arm and a leg for it.
 
I have Internet only from the cable company. They made me go through three different sales people who grilled me to get "triple play", no thanks!
 
I never take anything anyone says verbally as a promise since that just leads to a "your word versus my word" situation. Business is done in writing, at least through email, these days.

Telecommunications is not cheap. And we're not living through a time when we can rely on laws and regulations to make sure it is cheap for us if we cannot afford it to be expensive. There are approaches you can use to get a slightly better deal, a few times, but after a few times getting such accommodations, you really truly have to be willing to live without what they're offering, walk away from them for a while, in order to do much better than the advertised price. As much as we consumers are learning the game from our side, service providers are learning the game from their side as well.

High-speed broadband Internet service, specifically, is an insidious situation in most areas. With television, you can surely live with out it (perhaps, these days, even more so than Internet service), and there is effective competition for television service in practically every jurisdiction in the nation. Ditch Charter or Time Warner, and most landowners are still able get television service from DirecTV or Dish Network, and the law also secures that option for many renters (though it would be great if the political environment was such that renters were granted the same rights as landowners - we're not living in the 19th century anymore!) Furthermore, as long as you have high-speed broadband service, you can get a decent level of television service, now, that way. You have choices. You have some control.

With high-speed broadband Internet, many areas have only one viable supplier. That's because, according to the law, Internet is Internet. And surely everyone has many sources for Internet service available to them. The problem is that the law doesn't distinguish between dial-up service and broadband, and surely doesn't differentiate between levels of service that effectively support services such as streaming video from those that don't. And in today's political environment, it isn't likely that that is going to change. Things are arrayed in the service providers' favor, and that's the way we've collectively decided to have things, now, even though we hate it when it adversely affects us, personally.

To be fair, while part of the problem is that the law isn't on our side, another big part of the problem is that we don't acknowledge just how much the service is actually worth. The critics cherry-pick statistics when comparing the US to other nations, but the reality is that we actually have available to us the best Internet service available, an amazing accomplishment given how many Americans live remote from city centers compared to other nations that seem to have better service. The service many of us enjoy is the absolute Cadillac of Internet service. Even if we don't acknowledge all the value offered, the cost is warranted. And anyone who owns stock in Comcast or Time Warner can see the reality of that: These aren't super-fantastic stocks that yield many times the gains of other stocks. They're just "okay" holdings.

The fact that our Internet service is the Cadillac of Internet service leads to another obstacle for us - one of perception: We have luxury service, in the US, and we have chosen to treat Internet service, in general, legally like a luxury, and so it is going to be priced like a luxury. As I mentioned above, the law doesn't differentiate between this Cadillac of Internet service and dial-up service. However, despite that, consumers don't have an appreciation for sustenance Internet at a lower price. You could get Internet for $30 a month and be done with it. You cannot stream video, perhaps, but you would have Internet access. It's simply not appreciated by consumers in the way that our laws are structured to presume it would be.
 
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