In an ideal world, it should be humiliating to HIM, not you!!!.
Yeah I know... He also told my british friend who was at the party that british cuisine was one step up from dog food... I guess he was a jerk...
In an ideal world, it should be humiliating to HIM, not you!!!.
but everyone has to work to wind up with a little class.
This board has various functions, but I believe one of them is to serve as an alternate social group that helps maintain self esteem when we are giving up so many of the usual signs of social status.
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I remember a few times as a young father and husband when I realized that I had likely taken this cheap thing too far, and that my farmer ancestors would have been annoyed at me for not putting on a better face when I was able to do so. It can cost your kids, and it can cost your wife, if she is not as fully invested in finally achieving self supported laziness as you are.
Not sure I buy the rest of it, but I think this is pretty accurate.
The fact that the McMansion owner was judging the kid (who's parents likely got him a throw away car in case he wrecked) while the kid was doing a good deed really shows McMansion's true colors...
And here I was thinking a 2004 Accord is a pretty nice car! Guess it's all relative, as I drive off in my 1998 pile o junk.
Example: When car shopping in 2005, I wanted to go take some test drives and talk to some dealership service managers to supplement reading and internet research. Rather than leave the house in my normal threadbare state, I changed to nice dress slacks and shirt (business casual), put my checkbook and pen in my shirt pocket clearly visible, and headed for the dealerships. Got lots of quick, courteous service including disruptive trips into the service department and multiple test drives. Probably would have never happened had I looked and acted like I was just stepping in off the street to warm up! So, in the ten minutes it took me to change, I probably saved hours by having my requests politely accomodated.
I think it is in our nature to seek validation and approval from other people, because we desperately want to fit with the rest of the "tribe".
Wouldn't be a very good salesman if you judged everyones wealth on the clothing they wore.
The things people assert on this board often amaze me. There is nothing more sure in social life than the fact that others estimate your status in whatever local subculture is most salient, and treat you accordingly.
It is equally sure that this treatment matters to the treatee- he may be acutely aware of discrimination, he may assert force of will and blow it off, he may tell himself that his "indifference" is a sign of his innate superiority-that he is "plain people" full of inner virtue and hidden wealth, not a showy debt ridden consumer, etc. But unless he is not a primate, it matters, deep in a part of his brain that he may not even monitor very well.
These are rationalizations, and they take mental energy. But they are necessary rationalizations, as we must have ways to stay comfortable while living on much less money than others with whom we come into contact, otherwise we wouldn't be able to stay the course and save the money to FIRE, which for most of us is a transendent goal.
This board has various functions, but I believe one of them is to serve as an alternate social group that helps maintain self esteem when we are giving up so many of the usual signs of social status.
I remember a few times as a young father and husband when I realized that I had likely taken this cheap thing too far, and that my farmer ancestors would have been annoyed at me for not putting on a better face when I was able to do so. It can cost your kids, and it can cost your wife, if she is not as fully invested in finally achieving self supported laziness as you are.
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I just remember to make sure I wear clean underwear in case I got in an accident.
Still, I found that I had better luck establishing communication with the salesperson and getting the keys to the cars I wanted to test drive and an opportunity to talk to the service manager if I dressed and spoke professionally. It seemed to avoid the round of probing questions designed to see if you were a serious potential buyer or just a joy rider. I just wanted to skip that part so I presented myself as what I wanted them to think I was.
Not sure I buy the rest of it, but I think this is pretty accurate.
Sorry if I offended! Didn't mean to. I grew up in an area where most high schoolers got "throw away cars" that were usually a 1- to 2-year-old Corolla/Camry/Civic/Accord. I assumed that the kid was probably from nearby neighborhood of McMansion guy.
I'm sure there were plenty of people that judged me on my (reliable and dependable) 1988 Volvo station wagon I was driving in the early 2000s.
Maybe they teach them at the more expensive dealerships to not judge because you never know . When my husband & I went house shopping when we first moved to Sarasota they ignored us at a lot of model homes . One day we were out for a ride dressed very casually and we stopped at this exclusive developement to see the models ( for a chuckle ) they fawned all over us .
I agree and I'm not trying to imply that you'll never get good service if you're not cleaned up when you go car shopping....
I don't know.......
I live in a very diverse, densely populated urban area. Lots of people. Lots of social values, mores, cultural backgrounds and all that.