Closet_Gamer
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
I am a committed index investor with a fixed AA, written investment policy statement, mechanical re-balancing approach and a structured review schedule. I occassionly sin behind the church with a little speculation, but that is just for fun.
I was not born this way.
I forget who said it, she was a powerful wealthy woman, but the gist was "You cannot manage a large income until you've successfully managed a small one."
Amen. For me it helped to start dead broke.
DW and I got married right out of college with a huge pile of student debt. This was the mid-90s and the loans were mostly 8-10% rates. At one point we were "saving" nearly 50% of our income making the minimum loan payments. We snowballed down the debt to zero over about 5 years.
Ultimately it gave us a huge advantage ... we were living WAY below our means and never looked back on that point. I also read the Millionaire Next Door and the Wealthy Barber.
When I started investing, I quickly became suspicious of my new ML advisor saying "lots of my clients are buying xyz" and I realized that commissions & loads meant it was likely to be along time just to break even. I dumped them and moved to Schwab.
Then two things happened simultaneiously ... I decided my stash had grown big enough that I could screw it up. So I hired a financial manager (thru Schwab) and paid him to REALLY screw it up. Lesson learned. I started to read everything I could get my hands on.
I also went to work at a start-up private equity firm (that would go on to fail). My co-worker really understood finance. He taught me about risk, relative rates of return, financing stuctures of companies ... it was awesome. I also got close enough to a couple of deals to learn that it is not possible for a small investor to really know what is going on inside of a large company's finances. I walked out of one transaction and committed myself to being an index investor.
Lastly - and this is not a path open to everyone - I learned about my company's very generious Non-Qualified Deferred Compensation Plan for execs and made it my mission to gain entry. Clouds parted. Angels sang. The Dove of Peace came down to rest on my investment plan.
So, mostly I learned by getting myself into trouble and then getting out of it.
I was not born this way.
I forget who said it, she was a powerful wealthy woman, but the gist was "You cannot manage a large income until you've successfully managed a small one."
Amen. For me it helped to start dead broke.
DW and I got married right out of college with a huge pile of student debt. This was the mid-90s and the loans were mostly 8-10% rates. At one point we were "saving" nearly 50% of our income making the minimum loan payments. We snowballed down the debt to zero over about 5 years.
Ultimately it gave us a huge advantage ... we were living WAY below our means and never looked back on that point. I also read the Millionaire Next Door and the Wealthy Barber.
When I started investing, I quickly became suspicious of my new ML advisor saying "lots of my clients are buying xyz" and I realized that commissions & loads meant it was likely to be along time just to break even. I dumped them and moved to Schwab.
Then two things happened simultaneiously ... I decided my stash had grown big enough that I could screw it up. So I hired a financial manager (thru Schwab) and paid him to REALLY screw it up. Lesson learned. I started to read everything I could get my hands on.
I also went to work at a start-up private equity firm (that would go on to fail). My co-worker really understood finance. He taught me about risk, relative rates of return, financing stuctures of companies ... it was awesome. I also got close enough to a couple of deals to learn that it is not possible for a small investor to really know what is going on inside of a large company's finances. I walked out of one transaction and committed myself to being an index investor.
Lastly - and this is not a path open to everyone - I learned about my company's very generious Non-Qualified Deferred Compensation Plan for execs and made it my mission to gain entry. Clouds parted. Angels sang. The Dove of Peace came down to rest on my investment plan.
So, mostly I learned by getting myself into trouble and then getting out of it.