Another "Best Places to Retire" Article

Florida is getting crowded, I wish we were not rated so high. SW FLA is almost unbearable from a traffic point of view, especially in "The Season". Sanibel is wat too commercial now, we used to love shelling there.

The Central and North East Coast is also getting heavy traffic wise, especially within 30 miles of a major center.

Even 15 years ago it was a lot better, again traffic wise. But I guess anywhere anyone wants to be will be like that, unless we stop selling cars.

We should do what China did with children, only one per family. (Just Kidding).
 
That's a pretty cold top ten list. The sparsely populated western states don't usually feature in the "where to retire to" threads on this forum. A quick look at Bismarck's airport shows that traveling internationally from North Dakota would require a connection to a US hub first. This list doesn't seem to pass the "smell" test to me.

I would think that avoiding a connecting flight is probably very low on the requirement list for most people when compared to other factors.
 
Minnesota doesn’t always rank as highly in these places-to-retire lists as it does here, due to obvious snow/ice and a bit higher income taxes. However, it does a lot of things well in exchange for the income taxes, like healthcare, environment, education, transportation options and no sales tax on food or clothing. And since it’s a Delta hub we can fly direct just about everywhere - like Naples, Fl or Scottsdale and Tucson, which seem to be suburbs of Minneapolis, LOL. So this ranking seems a little more comprehensive.

For ourselves, I see continuing to be MN residents who escape for the winter.
 
I was suprised to find that our newly beloved AZ ranked slightly below the median for "quality of life", but found that weather/climate made up only 10% of the score. This maybe have been the case when we w*rked in offices all day, but now I would assign 70%+ of the quality of life score to the climate. For DW, having warm and sunny "winters" would make up 110% of quality of life! This doesn't leave many places in the USA since lower COL has been somewhat important.
DH and I agree with your DW! I moved to Phoenix over thirty years ago and got accustomed to all the sunshine. Two years ago, DH and I decided that it was time to either undertake an expensive remodel of our existing home or consider a move. We wound up moving 100 miles north to Red Rock country and are so glad we did. We still get all the sunshine but a more moderate climate especially the summers. It's a more rural scene but we can access the amenities of nearby small cities and even the metro Phoenix area if we have to. Meanwhile, we have a large number of amenities within a mile of our home. Certainly with the covid-19 pandemic, we've found it fairly easy to avoid contact with people on our daily 5+ mile walks.

No doubt it would be more complicated, but these sorts of surveys would benefit from the ability of the user to input their own priorities and weight them appropriately to obtain a more personalized result. That probably means a huge amount of data to provide a more granular approach than just a 50 state one.
 
I live in #41. Every year it battles NY as the state with the largest outbound population. Typically wins the honor as the highest property tax state and the most corrupt. Yet my actual city of Naperville, IL annually is named "the best place to live in America," or finishes in the top 3 places. Obviously different methodology is used for each survey.

I look forward to leaving IL once our daughter finishes college and establishes herself. But I do appreciate my city.
 
Then you'd be complaining about Too Many Old People. But wait...I think you already did! :D

We should do what China did with children, only one per family. (Just Kidding).
 
Interesting that Texas ranks bottom ten... yet isn’t in the bottom ten in any one category (affordability, quality of life, healthcare). In any event, I’m in CT, so a lot of places to potentially move up! But honestly, what’s most important to me is to be near friends and family. I’d rather it not be in CT, but I can’t envision moving to FL or elsewhere if I don’t know anyone.

Or I’ll just move to a tropical island and live my final years on my own.
 
I note with pride that Texas is in the bottom ten. Hey, I tried to tell you. :D

2021's Best and Worst States to Retire

Must be all those dang mud chiggers that gum up everything from high school football fields to [-]carburetors[/-] fuel injectors.

I live in a bottom half state - Washington. And even if only half of the tax increases proposed this year are passed it will go down farther. Imagine living in a state with not only the highest gasoline tax but also the highest liquor taxes.
 
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I live in #41. Every year it battles NY as the state with the largest outbound population. Typically wins the honor as the highest property tax state and the most corrupt. Yet my actual city of Naperville, IL annually is named "the best place to live in America," or finishes in the top 3 places. Obviously different methodology is used for each survey.

I look forward to leaving IL once our daughter finishes college and establishes herself. But I do appreciate my city.


Another Napervillian here. Would love to move but better half won't budge.
 
Iowa here #16. I have lived here all my life and I have never heard of anyone moving here to retire. Lots of good things here, but the winter weather......
 
We're very happy to be living in our part of #45. As with all of these lists, the numbers are meaningless when you average things across an entire state.

Ditto here in #44, WV. To be sure there are parts of WV (or any other state) that we wouldn't want to live in but where we are is by far lots better than where we were near D.C. Which is of course why we moved.
 
Must be all those dang mud chiggers that gum up everything from high school football fields to [-]carburetors[/-] fuel injectors.

I live in a bottom half state - Washington. And even if only half of the tax increases proposed this year are passed it will go down farther. Imagine living in a state with not only the highest gasoline tax but also the highest liquor taxes.

I'm surprise Washington gets such a low rating.

I think there is something wrong with the ranking, as for affordability it is suggesting Washington is MORE expensive than Hawaii :confused:
 
You really, really have to want to live in those west coast states badly in order to put up with the sky high housing prices, high taxes, crime and riots. Such a shame. Of course I live in Illinois, but I have the excuse of being born and raised here. I would move out for sure if DW was on board. Sadly, she has been too attached to move no matter how bad it gets.
 
The list is ridiculous. There is no way that Texas is a worse place to retire than Illinois. Take a look at the numbers of people leaving Illinois and the number of people that are moving to Texas.

Not a chance that any state is worse than Illinois on this list, let alone 9.
 
The list is ridiculous. There is no way that Texas is a worse place to retire than Illinois....

Have you ever lived in Texas? It's too damned hot!
 
Have you ever lived in Texas? It's too damned hot!



I “lived” there twice for a total of 3 months for work. Working outside in that heat was terrible. Texas at 95 feels hotter than Arizona at 115 to me.

But I think retirees could stay out of the Texas heat because retirees don’t have to go outside if they don’t have to. I wouldn’t mind living there. But not in a big city.
 
^ What he said.
You are, if nothing else, consistent. That said, now that we've been in Texas for over two years, I applaud your tenacity. :)

I “lived” there twice for a total of 3 months for work. Working outside in that heat was terrible. Texas at 95 feels hotter than Arizona at 115 to me.
Interesting. Back in 2016, our kid worked in both Chandler, AZ and in Austin, TX on travel. Did not like AZ at all. Tried to jog in AZ in the early morning there in May and gave up. Has no such problem doing that in the Austin area, and still does it 4+ years later. I guess everyone is different.

But I think retirees could stay out of the Texas heat because retirees don’t have to go outside if they don’t have to. I wouldn’t mind living there. But not in a big city.
We're 30 minutes (at least) from downtown Austin, and we're fine here in the suburbs (ask us 10 years from now!).

I did some landscaping work last April/May 2020 in the heat & humidity, and I survived just fine. Quite surprised I adapted so quickly (Sorry, REWahoo!). As long as I have AC available, I'm good. That said, I'm already working on swapping out some shrubs this year, and I plan to be done with that before the end of March. Just because I can deal with the heat doesn't mean I have to.
 
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Seven degrees this morning in CT, wind chills in the negatives, and snow coming Monday-Tuesday. It really sucks when your job requires some outside activity... I could go for some “too damned hot” right now.

To be fair, we haven’t had a bad winter this season, but the older I get, the less tolerant I am of snow/cold.
 
Seven degrees this morning in CT, wind chills in the negatives, and snow coming Monday-Tuesday. It really sucks when your job requires some outside activity... I could go for some “too damned hot” right now.

To be fair, we haven’t had a bad winter this season, but the older I get, the less tolerant I am of snow/cold.


-1 here in Southern NH without the wind. Yesterday was a -15 windchill and had to wear ski goggles walking the dog.:LOL:
 
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