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Old 08-19-2018, 01:34 PM   #221
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Yeah, the .8 cu-ft, 1 KW models work for what's important. Reheating, steaming veggies and as long as you can get a standard size plate and a cover on it it's good enough.

I remember the colossal size unit my parents bought decades ago. It was big enough to cook a turkey.
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I have always preferred a countertop microwave, because it is easier to replace if it breaks, or to upgrade when one desires new features... install a coffee maker under a cabinet...
I never thought of the fact that I have more counter space as is because I use a French Press. The coffee grinder takes up way less space.
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That's probably true. We've been having some "smoke out" issues with our oven, and even with the microwave hood on high, it doesn't do the trick. It's just something I've been noticing in some of the houses we're going through. I don't like the idea of losing counter space or a drawer, but I'm sure they have small enough microwaves to do what we need.
The HGTV guys said microwaves over the oven are dated so all new remodels are putting the microwave in other places .
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The main reason we are getting new cabinets is that are current built in appliances are dying and need to be replaced and the new appliances won’t fit our cabinets. And of course DW wants all built in appliances this time also. Microwave is in the bottom of an upper cabinet. That cabinet needs to be deeper to fit the microwave.
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I remember the colossal size unit my parents bought decades ago. It was big enough to cook a turkey.

We cooked an 18 pound turkey inside a paper bag in our Jenn Air microwave in 1978.
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I don't like the over the stove microwaves because they are too high. Ours, a built in over the wall oven was also installed too high. When we remodeled 2 years ago I got a wall unit combo oven and convection oven/microwave and installed it lower than the previous install. I have yet to use the microwave as a convection oven, but loved the idea. I had originally wanted an under the counter drawer microwave but DH didn't like the reviews wrt to reliability of those.
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The HGTV guys said microwaves over the oven are dated so all new remodels are putting the microwave in other places .
Oh well, I know of one recent remodel that didn't.... guess that we are just not styish... we did spring for a slide-in range though because I liked the look and we no longer have to reach over the burners to adjust them (controls were on the back on our prior conventional range/oven.
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Oh well, I know of one recent remodel that didn't.... guess that we are just not styish... we did spring for a slide-in range though because I liked the look and we no longer have to reach over the burners to adjust them (controls were on the back on our prior conventional range/oven.
I love the convenience of the over the stove micro wave so I guess I am also not stylish.
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I love the convenience of the over the stove micro wave so I guess I am also not stylish.
In our last house remodel we had the stove, microwave, and oven in separete spaces due to two teenagers and their parents. That worked much better than all three stacked in one spot prior to the remodel. In my new house all three will be stacked again to save space in the small kitchen. It is only me now so it should work most of the time.
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I love the convenience of the over the stove micro wave so I guess I am also not stylish.
Count be in on this. We did a gut job on the kitchen over the winter, microwave over the stove where it belongs.
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The HGTV guys said microwaves over the oven are dated so all new remodels are putting the microwave in other places .
The idea of having "styles' in the placement of kitchen appliances seems wacky. It's tied with the bathroom as the most utilitarian room in the house, "form" should be the unquestioning servant of "function" in such a room.
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In our last house remodel we had the stove, microwave, and oven in separete spaces due to two teenagers and their parents. That worked much better than all three stacked in one spot prior to the remodel. In my new house all three will be stacked again to save space in the small kitchen. It is only me now so it should work most of the time.
This resonates with me. Even with just DW and I in the kitchen, we “fight” for cooking space sometimes. With range and microwave (and small convection toaster oven) separate, we will be able to work together better.

I shopped countertop microwaves. Was concerned they would be like my old one from college with the dial, and barely big enough for a TV dinner. Seems like they’ve grown up since I last shopped for one 20 years ago!
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We got rid of the over the stove microwave when we remodeled for a couple of reasons.

Main reason was DW wanted a "real" vent. The old microwave had a fan that simple blew air through a filter, then back into the kitchen. We now have a vent over the stove which exhausts outside.

Also, I'm tall and it blocked my view of the stove at times.

Where did we put the microwave?

Our kitchen originally had a double wall oven. We used both occasionally (mainly holidays) and DW didn't want to loose the option of having two ovens available.

So we replaced the double oven (two full sized ovens) with the following stack:

top: combination convection oven / microwave
middle: full sized oven
bottom: warming drawer

It takes up about the same space as the old double oven. DW really loves the warming draw.
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Of course, all these "stylish" kitchens have huge square footage. When you are working with your 1979 footprint, the over the range microwave is a life saver.

I'm thinking of a low profile version, like below, for my next one. Only problem with it is it sticks out a bit too much. It will vent outside (or inside, your choice). Because it is low profile, you have some head room above the stove for big pots.
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Popcorn ceiling removed and re-textured to match the walls, then painted with lifetime paint.



Took 2 days, inside of house totally cocooned in plastic. Day 1 was stripping and re-texture, day 2 was painting.

Looks great!
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Premium paint cost an extra $200. No brainer on a 4 grand job eh?
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