Telly
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There isn't much detail on the Medicare website on this.
An employee (DW) is covered by a High-Deductible work plan. Employee turned 65 last year, and continues coverage under the work plan. The work plan meets the Medicare minimum requirements, and has over 1,000 people in it. Did not file for Medicare Part A, will file for Part A & B some time in the future when employment ends. The work plan has a deductible of around $2,750, and a MOOP (Maximum Out Of Pocket) of around $6,800.
Employee had a TKR earlier this year, has met deductible and has met MOOP, not surprising! Was scheduled for the second TKR, however, all that was shut down by Covid-19 preparations. Employee insurance year ends 8/31, questionable at this point whether TKR can be done by then. 9/1 and later would mean starting from scratch again on coverage.
So the research is to determine whether there any major benefits for the employee to sign up for Medicare Part A (Hospitalization), if it looks like the second operation will be post-8/31?
The medicare website says that the employee insurance will be primary, Medicare secondary. So I assume that would mean the first $2,750 of hospital expenses would go toward deductible, after $2,750 the insurance company pays it's usual 80%, the 20% that the employee would have to cover on their own gets passed on to Medicare. Does Medicare then invoke it's own Part A deductible of $1,300+ costs before they pay 80% of the remainder not paid by the work insurance? Or does Medicare run their Part A deductible concurrent with the work plan's deductible, and start paying their 80% with the arrival of the first remainder?
MOOP actions? It would seem that Medicare paying some of the remainder from employee insurance would mean that MOOP would get pushed out until the actual $ paid by the employee reached MOOP.
In typing this up, I realized that I don't know whether one can decide to start Part A while still employed, without a penalty, if one has run far enough past turning age 65. If one quits/gets laid off/retires over 65, I know it is a allowable event to pick up Medicare without penalty.
An employee (DW) is covered by a High-Deductible work plan. Employee turned 65 last year, and continues coverage under the work plan. The work plan meets the Medicare minimum requirements, and has over 1,000 people in it. Did not file for Medicare Part A, will file for Part A & B some time in the future when employment ends. The work plan has a deductible of around $2,750, and a MOOP (Maximum Out Of Pocket) of around $6,800.
Employee had a TKR earlier this year, has met deductible and has met MOOP, not surprising! Was scheduled for the second TKR, however, all that was shut down by Covid-19 preparations. Employee insurance year ends 8/31, questionable at this point whether TKR can be done by then. 9/1 and later would mean starting from scratch again on coverage.
So the research is to determine whether there any major benefits for the employee to sign up for Medicare Part A (Hospitalization), if it looks like the second operation will be post-8/31?
The medicare website says that the employee insurance will be primary, Medicare secondary. So I assume that would mean the first $2,750 of hospital expenses would go toward deductible, after $2,750 the insurance company pays it's usual 80%, the 20% that the employee would have to cover on their own gets passed on to Medicare. Does Medicare then invoke it's own Part A deductible of $1,300+ costs before they pay 80% of the remainder not paid by the work insurance? Or does Medicare run their Part A deductible concurrent with the work plan's deductible, and start paying their 80% with the arrival of the first remainder?
MOOP actions? It would seem that Medicare paying some of the remainder from employee insurance would mean that MOOP would get pushed out until the actual $ paid by the employee reached MOOP.
In typing this up, I realized that I don't know whether one can decide to start Part A while still employed, without a penalty, if one has run far enough past turning age 65. If one quits/gets laid off/retires over 65, I know it is a allowable event to pick up Medicare without penalty.
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