I agree: read labels. All of that info except the milk - presented by another poster - was straight out of my fridge, and read directly off the labels.
WRT almond milk: sure it is. You brought milk into the conversation when I had expressly said previously that I don't drink milk.
Maybe you said that in an earlier post? I was just responding to your statement in the context of the post it was in, this thread is getting long, I may not recall every word and who said it.
Regardless, it was just that you made a pretty broad-brush statement. Whether you drink milk or not really doesn't change the statement. I was just trying to stick to the point we do agree on - read the labels.
I understand your other point - some of the non-sweetened, non-dairy 'milks' have low/no sugar, compared to relatively high sugar levels in all dairy milk. But almond milk and dairy milk certainly are not 'apples-apples'. I'd certainly say they are less alike than regular yogurt and Greek yogurt are to each other.
And it is disingenuous to cite Greek yogurt vs. plain yogurt to support this argument you aren't trying to make (as you say!). They aren't the same thing - not even remotely as it pertains to sugar. Greek yogurt removes much of the whey and lactose via straining as it is made.
The article you apparently copied your yogurt stats from also plainly states that non-fat plain yogurt has more than 17 grams of carbs, a 50% increase from the full fat plain yogurt... But you conveniently left that part of the paragraph out, I see.
I left that out for two reasons (and it wasn't 'convenient', it took extra work!
). Here's the snipped part:
The same serving size of nonfat yogurt contains about 130 calories, 13 grams of protein, 0.4 grams of fat, 17.4 grams of carbohydrates and sugar, and 450 milligrams of calcium.
Notice they left the word 'plain' out of that? It's easy to miss, but I see you mentioned 'plain' in your paraphrase. But they included 'plain' in each of the others. So maybe that was a flavored or fruit-filled yogurt? So it may not be apples-apples, or it might be 'plain' to 'apples'?
That is why I chose the Greek yogurt, they both said 'plain' so I figured that might be more apples-apples.
And second, to reinforce that you need to read the labels, just going by one or the other descriptor may not be enough. When you are in the store, the full versus low/no fat might be two different brands/types, so... read the label.
I am not just making this sugar stuff up on a whim. It is pretty widely known in the nutrition world that nonfat and lowfat dairy products have more sugar than their full fat brethren.
In some cases yes, in some cases no. Like we both agree... read the labels. It's not always the case.
Back to Almond Milk - does anyone make their own? I see it takes an overnight (24 hour?) soak, so I couldn't just whip some up on a whim. But we always have almonds on hand, and it might be nice to make just enough for a week if I feel like having cereal or oatmeal that week.
-ERD50