We have been in the Wyndham points system for eight years after owning two weeks at a TS in the RCI system for about 30 years. We have a reasonable # of points that we bought direct from Wyndham and tend to travel during the off-season when we get discounted point stays. Use it as a second home without the hassles of maintaining another home on the ocean. Currently traveling 4-5 months out of the year including 3 months straight every winter where we stay in an oceanfront unit.
Do TSs work for us? Definitely, and we love the Wyndham places. Should we have bought everything retail? No, and if we ever decide to go "homeless" and travel year-round, any additional buys will be resale since we already have the highest status with Wyndham.
How would you get discounted stay on oceanfront in the winter time? I can tell you are a timeshare buff but you have no price per night, or maintence fee number and make it seem too good to be true. Thrown in the fact you paid retail and I'm kind of left wondering about the costs of things...during that 3 months how many do you have to move resorts and or units?
Easy to get discounted stays during the wintertime if you don't go to South Florida. We stay in Myrtle Beach and while it is not as warm as FL we still have lots of nice weather. The winter is the off-season here so the only week I can't get 1/2 points on is Christmas. The folks here know us well and insure we stay in the same 2 Bdrm oceanfront condo for the whole three months so we never have to move at all.
I don't like to talk financials much but with the amount of points we have with Wyndham (1.5M) it was not an insignificant amount to purchase. Our maintenance is the lowest in the Wyndham system since we made sure we are deeded to a very low cost resort not on the ocean. Those are currently about $6K per year, and for that we get 4-5 months of living on the ocean, or a week here and there in New Orleans, Sevierville TN, or some of our other favorite places.
When the sales folks try to upsell us at the "update" meetings they have a lot of difficulty coming up with anything since the contracts we have structured, as well as are low maintenance costs, are hard to argue with. They basically try to sell us more points which are unneeded at this point.
Easy to get discounted stays during the wintertime if you don't go to South Florida. We stay in Myrtle Beach and while it is not as warm as FL we still have lots of nice weather. The winter is the off-season here so the only week I can't get 1/2 points on is Christmas. The folks here know us well and insure we stay in the same 2 Bdrm oceanfront condo for the whole three months so we never have to move at all.
I don't like to talk financials much but with the amount of points we have with Wyndham (1.5M) it was not an insignificant amount to purchase. Our maintenance is the lowest in the Wyndham system since we made sure we are deeded to a very low cost resort not on the ocean. Those are currently about $6K per year, and for that we get 4-5 months of living on the ocean, or a week here and there in New Orleans, Sevierville TN, or some of our other favorite places.
When the sales folks try to upsell us at the "update" meetings they have a lot of difficulty coming up with anything since the contracts we have structured, as well as are low maintenance costs, are hard to argue with. They basically try to sell us more points which are unneeded at this point.
I just can’t get it to work financially, even excluding the other restrictions that come with TSs. However, you seem to have really enjoyed it and I’m happy for you.
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City tax dollars going toward the rental police what next? It seems no misdeed is to small it attract the governments attention. I fail to see how renting your home to someone when you aren't using it causes your neighbors a problem.
How would you get discounted stay on oceanfront in the winter time? I can tell you are a timeshare buff but you have no price per night, or maintence fee number and make it seem too good to be true. Thrown in the fact you paid retail and I'm kind of left wondering about the costs of things...during that 3 months how many do you have to move resorts and or units?
I just can’t get it to work financially, even excluding the other restrictions that come with TSs. However, you seem to have really enjoyed it and I’m happy for you.
All expenses in TS year round at $3,000 does not sound too bad....
"We'll share with you how we retired and are traveling cheap, eating well, and living in beautiful resorts with a targeted budget of less than $3,000 per month."
"We put our belongings in storage, rented out our house, loaded up our Toyota Prius, and we are traveling across the U.S., and eventually through Europe, timeshare to timeshare full time. At the resort get togethers we are asked, "Where are you from?" Edie says, "We're homeless." When we tell our story, they seem intensely interested and ask many questions. Some say they want to do it too. In this website we will disclose everything we are learning and discovering, how much we are spending, hits and misses, good and bad. Keep in mind we are learning as we go."
https://www.fulltimetimeshare.com
I also agree however if I tried to vacation as often as we do with the same type of accommodations we have paid for the timeshare a few times over.
I just looked and we've used the TS 58 times (maybe 300 days?) in the last 10 years.
Too funny!
I’ve read your blog (as part of research several years ago but, that’s another story), and I never made the connection to your E-R persona...until now. I found your blog fascinating, and almost included an indirect reference to your lifestyle in my post above. But, I view your TS experience as a ‘lifestyle’ choice versus a ‘vacation’ choice, if that makes sense.
So far I've read what seem to be honest and accurate accountings of owning TS experiences. Some are positive and some are negative, typical of any informal survey where outcomes vary and evidence and examples are anecdotal.
Where did you want to go with this SmallCityDave and what is your point?
Just curious.
If the property would otherwise be vacant, you could rent it for 30 days for the price of a week rental and have a gentleman's agreement with the landlord that you'll only use it for the one week.I wonder how the new private home rental law changes in Tahoe will affect time shares?
Essentially, no one can rent their home out in Tahoe any more unless it's for 30 days or longer. We used to rent a place every Thanksgiving for all our family. We live in the area and it was much easier on us just to rent them all one house they could stay at instead of OURS! Probably the main reason the law was passed. Ha!
FIL bought a TS oceanfront and sleeps 11 for $14000 per week in 1983. 7 pools and 6 tennis courts, 21 acres of coconut palms, restaurant. After 25 years, we sold all 3 weeks with only 5 years to go for $5000. It was a great experience just not a great "investment".[/QUOTE]
But what price can you put on the memories made there? That's how I rationalize it. Our kids have such great memories of those lazy, lakefront weeks.
WADR, of course you can. It’s the Carolina Coast in the winter. Not judging your vacation lifestyle; it seems to work for you. But, the numbers for a TS purchase are not compelling.
For example, you pay $6k/yr maintain fees for 4-5 mos; that equates to $40-$50/nt for a 2BR/2BA winter oceanfront in MB. I can match or beat that cost (VRBO, Airbnb, etc) any time. And, if it’s just two people, perhaps with occasional sleepover visitors, I can get a big 1BR/1BA w/ a sleeper couch for ~$25/nt (I have a buddy who used to do this in MB with his wife every winter, at about that price). On top of the annual maintenance fees is the cost of your original TS purchase. I don’t know, or even really need to know, how much you paid per Wyndham point. However, any comparison must include the purchase cost, which seems to range from ~$0.15/pt (retail) to ~$0.01 (resale). This means the cost of your original TS purchase of 1.5M points ($15k-$225k), exclusive of Maint fees & any other fees (exchange, etc), has been ~$20K-$300k over 10 yrs @ 3%.
I just can’t get it to work financially, even excluding the other restrictions that come with TSs. However, you seem to have really enjoyed it and I’m happy for you.
PS: you live in a great place! (Crossville, TN) DW & I relocated from near there 4 yrs ago & we loved Eastern TN living.
I find that people that have bought TSs actually take vacations, likely due to that upfront cost and wanting to get ones "monies worth".
The timeshare threads I've read on this forum are only negative in that some posters share bad experiences and point out that there are risks and downsides. Immediately, others speak up with anecdotal examples of how they're partying big time for pennies thanks to their timeshare ownership. I was hoping your thread would give some actionable nuts and bolts info regarding how to work the timeshare system successfully.Most TS threads are negative
OK. Well, your thread is consistent with previous threads then. Folks who enjoy that type of vacation and who got excellent deals with solid, reputable companies are having positive experiences. Folks whose personal leisure time tastes change or perhaps weren't a good fit for time-sharing from the get-go, and especially if they were sold a bill of goods by a high pressure bag-dragger, are less happy.I thought I'd share my experience and see if anyone was in the same boat, no real point.