Hjelle1
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Hi,
This is my first post. I am hoping for some conservative retirement investment advice.
We are quite conservative and have no debt. I retired the end of 2009 and started taking Social Security at that time. Other than stock from the company I worked for, we have only invested in the stock market for brief periods and have felt very uncomfortable the entire time we were involved.
I have a fixed pension from the company I worked for as long as I live (about $28,700), my and my wife’s Social Security ($19,776 & $9,780), some income from a small Shaklee business ($2,000) and some rental income (barely breaking even) for a total of about $60,256.
Our annual expenses including health insurance, long term care insurance and taxes are about $52,000. Assuming 3% inflation and 4% return we should be able to live off our current income until age 70 or so when we have to start taking our IRA Minimum Required Distributions. Using the same inflation and return rates, my spreadsheet shows that we should be able to make it to at least age 95 even if I die early and my wife loses my pension.
Our total net worth is about $1,167,000 broken down as follows:
Primary Residence 15.2%
Rental Property 11.0%
CD’s (5 year ladder) 24.6%
MM and Checking 2.1%
IRA .8%
Employee Stock Ownership Plan (OTTR) 13.8%
Retirement Savings Plan (Wells Fargo Principal Preservation IRA) 29.7%
Cash Value of Life Insurance 2.7%
My understanding is that money in my company Retirement Savings Plan has to be withdrawn as a lump sum so it would be best to move the investments to a fund that is more IRA RMD friendly. We have been advised to move the stock to a brokerage account to give us much faster access should we decide to sell.
We have spoken to two investment advisors that we like personally. One advised doing the following with the Employee Stock Ownership Plan and the Retirement Savings Plan.
Auto Owners Fixed Annuity 18.5% of funds
Health Care Trust of America (REIT) 7.4%
Midland National Variable Annuity w/ Guaranteed Income Select 18.5%
Allianz Vision Annuity w/ Investment Protector 18.5%
Curian Capital w/ Dynamic Risk Advantage 29.5%
OTTR Stock 7.7%
An Edward Jones representative suggested the following for the Retirement Savings Plan money.
Mutual Funds
Smallcap World Fund CL A (SMCWX) 3.1% of funds
AMCAP Fund CL A (AMCPX) 5.7%
Capital Income Builder Fund (CAIBX) 5.7%
Capital World GRW & Inc Fund A (CWGIX) 3.1%
Investment Co of America FD A (AIVSX) 2.6%
Fixed Income
12 taxable fixed-income securities 48.1%
Variable Annuities
Lincoln Variable Annuity with Balanced Growth and Income 29.9%
Cash and Cash Alternatives
Money Market Fund Retirement Shares 2%
I am having a very difficult time getting comfortable with annuities of any kind. The total projected return on the Edward Jones proposal is only about .25% better than what we are currently getting with our 5 year CD ladder. I have no interest in spending time monitoring investments.
I am very tempted to call both investment advisors and ask what rates we could get if we moved our IRA, Retirement Savings Plan and Employee Stock Ownership Plan funds into CDs.
Any advice you could give us would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you very much.
This is my first post. I am hoping for some conservative retirement investment advice.
We are quite conservative and have no debt. I retired the end of 2009 and started taking Social Security at that time. Other than stock from the company I worked for, we have only invested in the stock market for brief periods and have felt very uncomfortable the entire time we were involved.
I have a fixed pension from the company I worked for as long as I live (about $28,700), my and my wife’s Social Security ($19,776 & $9,780), some income from a small Shaklee business ($2,000) and some rental income (barely breaking even) for a total of about $60,256.
Our annual expenses including health insurance, long term care insurance and taxes are about $52,000. Assuming 3% inflation and 4% return we should be able to live off our current income until age 70 or so when we have to start taking our IRA Minimum Required Distributions. Using the same inflation and return rates, my spreadsheet shows that we should be able to make it to at least age 95 even if I die early and my wife loses my pension.
Our total net worth is about $1,167,000 broken down as follows:
Primary Residence 15.2%
Rental Property 11.0%
CD’s (5 year ladder) 24.6%
MM and Checking 2.1%
IRA .8%
Employee Stock Ownership Plan (OTTR) 13.8%
Retirement Savings Plan (Wells Fargo Principal Preservation IRA) 29.7%
Cash Value of Life Insurance 2.7%
My understanding is that money in my company Retirement Savings Plan has to be withdrawn as a lump sum so it would be best to move the investments to a fund that is more IRA RMD friendly. We have been advised to move the stock to a brokerage account to give us much faster access should we decide to sell.
We have spoken to two investment advisors that we like personally. One advised doing the following with the Employee Stock Ownership Plan and the Retirement Savings Plan.
Auto Owners Fixed Annuity 18.5% of funds
Health Care Trust of America (REIT) 7.4%
Midland National Variable Annuity w/ Guaranteed Income Select 18.5%
Allianz Vision Annuity w/ Investment Protector 18.5%
Curian Capital w/ Dynamic Risk Advantage 29.5%
OTTR Stock 7.7%
An Edward Jones representative suggested the following for the Retirement Savings Plan money.
Mutual Funds
Smallcap World Fund CL A (SMCWX) 3.1% of funds
AMCAP Fund CL A (AMCPX) 5.7%
Capital Income Builder Fund (CAIBX) 5.7%
Capital World GRW & Inc Fund A (CWGIX) 3.1%
Investment Co of America FD A (AIVSX) 2.6%
Fixed Income
12 taxable fixed-income securities 48.1%
Variable Annuities
Lincoln Variable Annuity with Balanced Growth and Income 29.9%
Cash and Cash Alternatives
Money Market Fund Retirement Shares 2%
I am having a very difficult time getting comfortable with annuities of any kind. The total projected return on the Edward Jones proposal is only about .25% better than what we are currently getting with our 5 year CD ladder. I have no interest in spending time monitoring investments.
I am very tempted to call both investment advisors and ask what rates we could get if we moved our IRA, Retirement Savings Plan and Employee Stock Ownership Plan funds into CDs.
Any advice you could give us would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you very much.