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redduck 11-07-2018 10:10 AM

State Governors
 
I understand (sort of) why U.S Senate and House of Rep. races are important. But, I don't understand the importance of the state governor's races as it pertains to the country. Anyone care to explain?

pb4uski 11-07-2018 10:32 AM

In terms of handicapping how voters are leaning at this point for the 2020 presidential elections, senate and gubernatorial races are considered relevant since the electoral college is generally based on state-wide popular votes.

Red Badger 11-07-2018 10:33 AM

All politics are local. Gov's appoint state cabinet officers, and in some states, judges. They can be a powerful force in grassroots organization - the force that drives local, and ultimately, national elections.

braumeister 11-07-2018 10:37 AM

If you have gridlock at the federal level, more decisions are made at state level.

Chuckanut 11-07-2018 10:42 AM

Many governors are a good prospect for President. They have experience being in the Executive office, and hopefully, have shown that they can get things done, bring people together, etc. etc. etc.

Governors who became president in my life are Ronald Regan, Jimmy Carter, George W. Bush, and Bill Clinton.

Governors Who Became President | Center on the American Governor

travelover 11-07-2018 10:57 AM

Districts are outlined in most states by the state's legislature, so it is an opportunity to draw districts to one party's favor. Additionally, the governor determines at least in part how voting laws are created and enforced, which again, can be tilted for partisan purposes.

SumDay 11-07-2018 11:06 AM

They matter for things like gerrymandering, redistricting and climate change. JMHO, of course.

RunningBum 11-07-2018 11:56 AM

I think the OP is asking why anyone would care who the governor of another state is. Seems pretty clear that the governor of your own state is important.

A few thoughts come to my mind:

- Travel. If you're ever going to travel to that state, you are subject to their laws. Maybe they discriminate against your kind, or don't enforce laws well which encourages more crime, making it unsafe for you. Crime can also bleed into surrounding states.

- Environment. Air and water doesn't just stay in one state, if pollution is unchecked it affects everyone, especially those downwind and downwater from the state.

- Economy, corruption, etc. If a state is mismanaged, will the federal government have to bail them out? Do they give unsustainable tax breaks that take away industry from other states?

- Immigration enforcement. Not going to get deep into this but if they are a border state, what they do clearly impacts a lot of people.

Is that enough?

redduck 11-07-2018 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by braumeister (Post 2137937)
If you have gridlock at the federal level, more decisions are made at state level.

What might be an example (real or unreal) of a decision (or type of decision) made at the state level due to gridlock at the federal level?

braumeister 11-07-2018 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by redduck (Post 2137999)
What might be an example (real or unreal) of a decision (or type of decision) made at the state level due to gridlock at the federal level?

Ever hear of cannabis?

MRG 11-07-2018 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redduck (Post 2137999)
What might be an example (real or unreal) of a decision (or type of decision) made at the state level due to gridlock at the federal level?

10 states with recreational cannibis. 33 with medical. New FDA approved medicine made from cannibis while it's a schedule 1 drug.

audreyh1 11-07-2018 02:17 PM

Wow - lots of great answers!

Amethyst 11-07-2018 02:27 PM

Great points! Highly relevant to ER, too. Just think of all the threads about "Where should I retire?"

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunningBum (Post 2137990)
I think the OP is asking why anyone would care who the governor of another state is. Seems pretty clear that the governor of your own state is important.

A few thoughts come to my mind:

- Travel. If you're ever going to travel to that state, you are subject to their laws. Maybe they discriminate against your kind, or don't enforce laws well which encourages more crime, making it unsafe for you. Crime can also bleed into surrounding states.

- Environment. Air and water doesn't just stay in one state, if pollution is unchecked it affects everyone, especially those downwind and downwater from the state.

- Economy, corruption, etc. If a state is mismanaged, will the federal government have to bail them out? Do they give unsustainable tax breaks that take away industry from other states?

- Immigration enforcement. Not going to get deep into this but if they are a border state, what they do clearly impacts a lot of people.

Is that enough?


audreyh1 11-07-2018 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunningBum (Post 2137990)
- Immigration enforcement. Not going to get deep into this but if they are a border state, what they do clearly impacts a lot of people.

Just wanted to point out that immigration enforcement is a Federal responsibility, not State. Yeah we have some State Troopers along the border here, but the Federal presence is considerably higher, and the State Troopers don't really do anything other than watch and occasionally stop a car.

redduck 11-07-2018 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by audreyh1 (Post 2138079)
Wow - lots of great answers!

Yes, really. What's that all about?

edit to add: I am struck by the high quality of the responses.

Aerides 11-07-2018 04:12 PM

Having a State Governor of the same party of incumbent WH, up for reelection, is seen as helpful to the WH when a State is viewed as competitive or purple.

So, let's say Hawaii is a "must win" state for the WH to win reelection. If the president and Gov of HI are from the same party, then the Pres can/does expect a little help with campaigning, helping promote a president's agenda or push state policies that reinforce it, those things are seen as helpful.

Why does someone else who lives, say, in Arkansas, care? Depends on who they want in the WH/Federal policies. If it's the incumbent, then more Govs matching the Incumbent in those swing states is better for them. If it's not, then...not so much.

target2019 11-07-2018 04:14 PM

Appointees to joint transportation authorities are sometimes made by governors. This has noticeable impact on bridge and track repairs, fare decisions, etc.

ShokWaveRider 11-07-2018 04:15 PM

Surely a governor's policies would be reflected in the state he/she governs. If said governor is of a particular party and one prefers or does not prefer that parties policies, then sure it is meaningful to the states residents.

Bamaman 11-07-2018 04:30 PM

Governors also appoint replacements for Federal elected officials--until the next election. And overwhelmingly, those appointed are elected to the position they've been holding.

Red Badger 11-07-2018 05:42 PM

FWIW - a governor is also commander in chief of the national guard. Based on professional affiliation many years ago, that's a sh!t ton of horsepower and firepower.


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