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Our niece will be doing a long weekend with her mom in SF and they asked for advice re what area to stay and things to do. We had several ideas of what to do, but it’s been a decade or more since we stayed in SF and not sure what areas have deteriorated vs are now good.

- What areas do you recommend? Priorities are safe, convenient and decent prices for lodging.

- We recommended Golden Gate Bridge, Sausalito, Muir Woods, 17 mile drive, Harbor Tour/Alcatraz, Fisherman’s Wharf, streetcar, Ghirardelli Chocolate Factory, Chinatown, Lombard St., North Beach for Italian food, and Beach Blanket Babylon. They only have 3-4 days so probably not enough for wine country. Any other worthwhile sights we missed? This is their first visit.
 
Scratch Lombard St. Lines too long. But I like the ferry building. Beach Blanket Babylon is closing NYE
 
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My experiences with SFO have been horrible, so we fly into Sacramento and drive west, if we visit SF. We spent over 3 hours, just trying to get luggage, rent a reserved car, travel via shuttle, in time to hit rush hour traffic. Maybe, Oakland would be a better airport but I have no experiences there.

Being foodies, we love Fisherman's Wharf, but I'm sure there's good food elsewhere, without the crowds.
 
Coit Tower has a nice view.
 
I'm usually there just for lunch down on the docks. Then, we hit the road south to Monterrey, Carmel and down US Hwy 1 to the Hearst Castle area.
 
Have them take the double-decker bus tour. Go to Alcatraz (need to book far in advance). Check out Pier 39 and the Sea Lions.

If they stay somewhere in the Fisherman's Wharf section, lots of good things are within walking distance (San Francisco is a great walking city). We've stayed at the San Francisco Marriott at Fisherman's Wharf more than once. Very nice.

If they are in the Washington Square area early in the morning, have them eat at Mama's. They won't be sorry, even with the long lines. Best breakfast in San Francisco, IMHO.
 
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In addition to your suggestions, Scuba, if they like seafood, lunch at Hog Island Oyster Co. at the Ferry Building can give them a nice view of the bay; or if they're there on a Thursday, some of the best food trucks in the city park at the plaza/farmer's market in front of the Ferry Building. I'd also ride the cable cars a bit, as you get to see some of the city that way.


And Top of the Mark, on the top floor (natch!) of the Mark Hopkins Hotel, is a nice (although pricey) place for cocktails and a view of the city.
 
I love Golden Gate Park, especially if the weather is good. The park is the location for the De Young Museum and the Academy of Sciences. Lots to see and do in this one location.
 
One thing about San Francisco is that hotel pricing varies a lot from week to week depending on what's going on. There are no reasonably priced hotels during conventions like Oracle World or Dreamforce or if there's a big athletic or public event, so if their dates are flexible, they should compare hotel prices for the weekends before and after their first choice. They may save a lot by shifting their dates a little bit.

If the hotels in Fishermen's Wharf are too pricey, then Cow Hollow is a walkable neighborhood with a lot of restaurants and boutique shopping. Lombard St is Hwy 101, so it's busy, but a block or two south is much quieter. Other places I'd look would be Nob Hill (I've sometimes seen ridiculously low rates at the Fairmont), Russian Hill, Japan Town, or anything along Columbus or Embarcadero. They could even look at the big business hotels in the Financial District and see if they can get a good weekend rate.
 
You'll need to make advance ressies for the Alcatraz tour. Last summer, it was about 6 weeks out. We learned the hard way when we had out of town guests!!! Muir Woods has instituted a reservation system for parking...I don't have add'l details.
 
My experiences with SFO have been horrible, so we fly into Sacramento and drive west, if we visit SF. We spent over 3 hours, just trying to get luggage, rent a reserved car, travel via shuttle, in time to hit rush hour traffic. Maybe, Oakland would be a better airport but I have no experiences there.

Being foodies, we love Fisherman's Wharf, but I'm sure there's good food elsewhere, without the crowds.
I prefer flying in / out of SFO but then I use Bart / mobile passport. Pick luggage up, walk to Bart, I'm in Walnut Creek for Uber in a little over 1.5 hrs.

I'll 2nd Mama's!
 
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Hotel Kabuki in Japantown is very nice. Price can vary between 150-400 for the same room depending on what’s going on in the city.
 
Don't use a car in San Francisco, not only is parking a challenge but they have a car prowl problem (think broken window). DD had her car broken into in SF when visiting their office there. Use Uber or Lyft if walking or transit doesn't meet your needs.
 
Fort point gets you a very unusual perspective of the Golden Gate Bridge.
 
Don't use a car in San Francisco, not only is parking a challenge but they have a car prowl problem (think broken window). DD had her car broken into in SF when visiting their office there. Use Uber or Lyft if walking or transit doesn't meet your needs.


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And parking is $$$$, especially at hotels.

If they plan to take public transit, they should pick up a Clipper Card for fare payments. They work across all Bay Area transit systems—BART, SF Muni (bus, light rail & CABLE CARS), Caltrain, the ferries over to Marin or Oakland, and more.

You can buy them at transit centers (probably at SFO too), most Walgreens, among other places.
www.Clippercard.com

Edit to add: we found public transit easy to use with google maps. It will display all of the bus schedules you need
 
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Fort point gets you a very unusual perspective of the Golden Gate Bridge.

Well worth the trip. However, if you want to go inside the Fort, it's only open Fri-Sundays. The GG Bridge perspective from inside the Fort is one of a kind :dance:.
 
I suggest starting at Market street, walk through Chinatown, into North Beach for great Italian restaurants. Also neat local bars to grab a rest and enjoy a drink. Continue on to Pier 39. Lot of walking but SF is a great place to experience on street level.

You can walk from Pier 39 to Fisherman's wharf and then continue to Ghirardelli square.
 
I hope it goes without saying but walking is safer (not totally safe of course) in the daytime. So they aren't disappointed, SF isn't the city it was 20+ years ago. However, with that understood, just try to ignore/avoid the bums and dirty streets that are many areas. While I agree, parking can be a hassle, it's not impossible, and a you can see a lot with a driving tour of the city. Just driving up and down many of the very steep streets can be "interesting".

I do agree with many of the suggestions of things to see and do. One thing I remember seeing, that I don't think has been mentioned here, is to go to the end of the cable car line and watch them as they turn cable cars around. Very low tech and simplistic but neat to see. You also might consider walking across the Golden Gate. (very wide sidewalk and a long walk) I did it once. Great views of the actual Bay, the city and Alcatraz.
 
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Buena Vista cafe for Irish Coffee!! Usually packed, packed, packed. Great way to meet new friends.
 
A few visits to SF were enough to get the idea, and after that I kind of lost interest. But going south can be interesting. I spent six months in Monterey going through language school, and got to love that town. Gilroy is pretty cool if you like garlic (and who doesn't?). Castroville is the artichoke capital. Carmel is interesting. Try some of the famous Santa Maria barbeque where they smoke the meat over mesquite wood. Salinas is John Steinbeck's old stomping ground (similar to Cannery Row in Monterey). The Apple campus in Cupertino is probably worth a visit. You can still find some good Portuguese restaurants and bakeries in Santa Clara.
 
You might want to have them bring along the google poop map:
https://www.openthebooks.com/map/?Map=32504&MapType=Pin&Zip=94103

That is so sad.

Without getting political, how could such a great city allow the homeless situation to get to this point? I don't understand how (or why) the citizens tolerate it.

I've never been to California but I've always wanted to go (my wife lived there as a child, and her niece lives in SF). Now, I'm not so sure...
 
That is so sad.

Without getting political, how could such a great city allow the homeless situation to get to this point? I don't understand how (or why) the citizens tolerate it.


I know this may wake porky "but" it's an interesting question since SF has more billionaires-per-capita than any other city in the US. I guess spreading the wealth only applies when it's spreading someone else's money.
 
I know this may wake porky "but" it's an interesting question since SF has more billionaires-per-capita than any other city in the US. I guess spreading the wealth only applies when it's spreading someone else's money.


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