Tough love: Cult or ER forum?

[obgyn65]

I am OK with this. I would be in the men's group but would support the women.

Maybe an ER forum biggest loser competition thread -- girls against the boys.

 

[freebird5825]

This thread went further down the weight path than I expected.

We are easily distracted.

 

[freebird5825]

I am OK with this. I would be in the men's group but would support the women.

Free lunch for all of us ER gals !

 

[haha]

Free lunch for all of us ER gals !

Yes, but he will only provide pasta or potato salads, or for those nostalgic women, Green Goddess Salad. Your dessert will be pineapple upside down cake with low fat Redi-Whip.

Over in the men’s camp we will be having garden salad, baked cod with cheese sauce, beefsteaks, pork tenderloin with sauce Béarnaise, and to mark the holiday, Al's low carb eggnog with Bacardi rum.

BTW, no fraternization between camps.


Ha

 

[Moemg]

Yes, but he will only provide pasta or potato salads, or for those nostalgic women, Green Goddess Salad. Your dessert will be pineapple upside down cake with low fat Redi-Whip.

Over in the men’s camp we will be having garden salad, baked cod with cheese sauce, beefsteaks, pork tenderloin with sauce Béarnaise, and to mark the holiday, Al's low carb eggnog with Bacardi rum.

BTW, no fraternization between camps.


Ha

Since the women are having nostalgic food I think we should wash it down with Manhattan's or Rob Roy's !

 

[haha]

Since the women are having nostalgic food I think we should wash it down with Manhattan's or Rob Roy's !

If you ladies promise to wear party dresses and get your hair done, I'll even tend bar and offer all the above and more like Whiskey Sour, Brandy Alexander, Side Car, Old Fashioned and all kinds of Martinis, clean to totally dirty.

Ha

 

[HFWR]

If you ladies promise to wear party dresses and get your hair done, I'll even tend bar and offer all the above and more like Whiskey Sour, Brandy Alexander, Side Car, Old Fashioned and all kinds of Martinis, clean to totally dirty.

Ha

No panty droppers?

 

[Nuiloa]

I am OK with this. I would be in the men's group but would support the women.

You couldn't support them long if they're all hefty

 

[freebird5825]

If you ladies promise to wear party dresses and get your hair done, I'll even tend bar and offer all the above and more like Whiskey Sour, Brandy Alexander, Side Car, Old Fashioned and all kinds of Martinis, clean to totally dirty.

Ha

Deal! I'm fond of Tequlia Sunrises, except make it with vodka. Tequila and I have had many "arguments" over the years, and I have always lost.

How's this for a dress? It's very sparkly (recall Rain Man movie).

No fraternizing, but some short distance worship is allowed.

 

[FinanceDude]

Deal! I'm fond of Tequlia Sunrises, except make it with vodka. Tequila and I have had many "arguments" over the years, and I have always lost.

How's this for a dress? It's very sparkly (recall Rain Man movie).

No fraternizing, but some short distance worship is allowed.

You look ready to light up the town..........

 

[unclemick]

Deal! I'm fond of Tequlia Sunrises, except make it with vodka. Tequila and I have had many "arguments" over the years, and I have always lost.

How's this for a dress? It's very sparkly (recall Rain Man movie).

No fraternizing, but some short distance worship is allowed.

Right! My Parole Officer is cute - but long distance and married. She does send recipes via email once inbetween once a month telephone report in's.

My Doc ratted me out. 400 chloresterol.

ER's should be aware Medicare(age 65 looms) now 'lets you volunteer'. Volunteer get it? - to lose weight, exercise and eat rite while recording (confession is good for the soul) your data on the internet. Followed up by a little monthly telecon with my 'ra ra' Parole Officer.



Gave my 6 month blood for testing last thursday.

heh heh heh - like a few good stocks some one paying cash ate a baked potato, steak, salad , bread with ALL the fixings and paid cash so as not to leave a paper trail. Nuts and twigs and exercise here we come. .

 

[73ss454]

Oh boy, there goes Ha and the Freebird chick again.

 

[haha]

You look ready to light up the town..........

Yep, you just earned all the Tequila you want.

Ha

 

[Amethyst]

Looks like the thread is [-]degenerating[/-] progressing quickly from Tough Love to Free Love....

 

[W2R]

My Doc ratted me out. 400 chloresterol.

Doggone, unclemick, you gotta get on some meds or whatever it takes. There are few enough New Orleanians left, as it is (and Kansas or not, you will always be a New Orleanian IMO). Besides, you would be missed if you left us before your time.

 

[unclemick]

Doggone, unclemick, you gotta get on some meds or whatever it takes. There are few enough New Orleanians left, as it is (and Kansas or not, you will always be a New Orleanian IMO). Besides, you would be missed if you left us before your time.

Na - down under 200 last two checkups with BP in range as well. Well maybe not BP - this thread is heating up.



heh heh heh - it's sticking with the diet and exercise over the long haul. . Now back to the pictures and er ah Tequila?

 

[W2R]

Na - down under 200 last two checkups with BP in range as well. Well maybe not BP - this thread is heating up.



heh heh heh - it's sticking with the diet and exercise over the long haul. . Now back to the pictures and er ah Tequila?

Terrific!! Whew, that's a relief. Party on!

 

[haha]

Na - down under 200 last two checkups with BP in range as well. Well maybe not BP - this thread is heating up.



heh heh heh - it's sticking with the diet and exercise over the long haul. . Now back to the pictures and er ah Tequila?

Careful about kidding us about these things Uncle. We'll wind up killing you with love.

Ha

 

[HFWR]

Careful about kidding us about these things Uncle. We'll wind up killing you with love.

Ha

No, we'll whip out some references stating that the total cholesterol number is non-predictive and/or unimportant...

 

[unclemick]

No, we'll whip out some references stating that the total cholesterol number is non-predictive and/or unimportant...

Right - I get color graphs (Berkeley Heart Lab) showing molecule size distribution and other tests only a few of which I understand their explanation.

Back in 2009, 6' 0" 195 lbs, 38 inch waist, 400 total chloesterol my Doc understood having lived in Metaire for a while. My New Orleans diet(think fried everything) went out the window.

33 waist, 168 lbs and I would die for chili cheese fries and a Seafood platter.

Whaaa!

heh heh heh - I do sneak in some KC style pulled pork -light on the BBQ sauce once in a while.

 

[Nuiloa]

33 waist, 168 lbs and I would die [-]for[/-] because of chili cheese fries and a Seafood platter.

Still, there are worse things to die for

 

[Martha]

An article about peer pressure is really needed to get folks to lose weight and other activities: A Team Approach to Weight Loss - NYTimes.com

I think you know the drill. You cannot have friends help you with all this, you need to have folks who can dish out tough love and disapproving comments when you stray. Friends who support you when you do something ill-advised are not helpful. I think it's similar to what this forum does. Note the comments about how the leader of a group can set the dynamic.

I don't know if I buy this. Like it or not, Weight Watchers and similar programs lousy track records. Really stinking lousy. Weight loss and weight loss maintenance is difficult and the odds are seriously stacked against you. For me, tough love would never work. I'd slap my tough lover across the face and walk out of the relationship.

From Jeffrey Friedman, the scientist who was a discoverer of Leptin, a hormone important in appetite:

“Twin studies, adoption studies, and studies of familial aggregation confirm a major contribution of genes to the development of obesity. Indeed, the heritability of obesity is equivalent to that of height and exceeds that of many disorders for which a genetic basis is generally accepted. It is worth noting that height has also increased significantly in Western countries in the 20th Century.”

“Feeding is a complex motivational behavior, meaning that many factors influence the likelihood that the behavior will be initiated. These factors include the unconscious urge to eat that is regulated by leptin and other hormones, the conscious desire to eat less (or more), sensory factors such as smell or taste, emotional state, and others. The greater the weight loss, the greater the hunger and, sooner or later for most dieters, a primal hunger trumps the conscious desire to be thin.”

“Obesity is not a personal failing. In trying to lose weight, the obese are fighting a difficult battle. It is a battle against biology, a battle that only the intrepid take on and one in which only a few prevail.” A war on obesity, not the obese. [Science. 2003] – PubMed – NCBI.

Now, it is time for me to sign off and pull out my bicycle. Once a person loses weight their crappy odds improve if they are exercisers. Over the past year I lost my excess weight, I live with hungry, and I bike and bike and bike. If I keep my weight off for a couple of years my odds will improve. Maybe forever I will need to follow Uncle Mick's advice and live agile, mobile and hostile.

 

[REWahoo]

I'd slap my tough lover across the face with a slab of bacon and walk out of the relationship.

FIFY...

 

[TromboneAl]

studies of familial aggregation confirm a major contribution of genes to the development of obesity

The problem I see with that is that if the obesity is just genetic, it can't have increased so much in just a few generations. It usually takes thousands of generations to see a genetic shift, yet we've seen a dramatic increase in obesity just 30 years or so.

However, I agree with you that obesity is largely out of your control if you eat the standard American diet (especially a diet low in fat and high in grains).

The way I see it is this: Yes, it's genetic, but the genes are no different than they were 30 years ago. It's a genetic problem with the metabolism of carbs, and what's changed is the advice to eat more of them.

 

[TromboneAl]

I'd slap my tough lover across the face and walk out

This sounds like one of Freebird's softball setups.